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el Estado de Coahuila de Mexico => Serranias del Burro, Del Carmens, El Carmen => Topic started by: homerboy2u on June 30, 2007, 05:20:40 PM

Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on June 30, 2007, 05:20:40 PM
Well folks the trail was Named the Mina Aguachile-Mina Cuatro Palmas-La Linda-and the Santa Rosa Tunnel.

 And let me tell you it was all but easy, this was more like resistance trail than a trip to the supermarket. It was not easy at all.

  We met with the local  Ciudad Acu?a 4x4 Club (http://acuna4x4.com.mx/home/index.php).... Acu?a Extremo. These guys were more than hospitable to us and were more than ready to welcome us in to the trail. We met in a local gas satation , packed up with what ever last minute goodies were missing and off we went to an  adventure trip , long overdue. We were all eager to hit the back country.

  I met everybody, whom i had not met the week before in a meeting where we had cleared alot of small details that this sort of trip pops up. There i met a very good friend , Eduardo Fuentes, Megalo77 how is known here and made some small talk before the back country was calling us.

 To be honest i was a nervous, a little bit scared because it was the first time for me i was going to travel this part of the country that was unknow to me. I looked around , and there were more friendly faces who were also nervous but going in a group made stronger to face what ever challenges, the backcountry would throw our way.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on June 30, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Our point of entry was the road to Ejido Santa Eulalia, which i had not visited since i was in third grade, back in the seventies.

  I went for the first time with my uncle Enrique who was a veterinarian for the San Vicente Ranch , the owner at the time was George Paul Myers, i know that the ranch was one of the biggest in the northern part of Coahuila. I don't exactly how big it was, maybe Megalo77 can step here and fill in the gaps but story goes that it was so big, that the hired hands were branding cattle , horses and sheep all year long. Usually ranches in these neck of the woods do that once a year , but to do this year round you have to have a big spread...more than 500,000 hectares ...easily.

 I remember that this ranch among the many features it had: a Big Hacienda , two stories cowboy houses ( i have never seen ranch houses this big before or since),many air strips, heards of cattle and horses like you can't even imagine, it had a telephone. Now a days this sounds like it is not a rarerity bue at the time to see a phoneline going along the road where the technology was in a precambric age, it was a spectacular thing to see, even to have . It was the only phone in more than 700 square kilometers. It was amazing .

  All these features were lost when the Federal Government step in and broke many great ranches in what was called The Reparticion Agraria. In my opinion, that action alone buried the cattle industry to dust, by forming the ejidos where the ranch hands turned out become the new owners of the land and thus ruining all that was made by hard work and sweat , maybe forvever.

  Many years later the Federal Government , realizing the mistake it had made, ended the Ejido Program but almost all of the mayor ranch operations were completely destroyed, others had lost interest in picking up the pieces or basically lost interest in returning to what it was long ago. Some ranches manage to pick up and start again, but Hacienda de San Vicente was brought down for tha last count.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 04:43:48 PM
Our trip , would start at:
* Ciudad Acu?a then we passesd
* Ejido Santa Eulalia
* Hacienda San Vicente
* Ejido San Miguel
* Rancho Santo Toribio
* Ejido Las Norias (Carranza)
* Aguachile Mine
* 4 Palmas Mine
* La Linda
* Rancho La Tinaja
* Then, headback to Ejido Morelos
* Rancho El Melon
* The Santa Rosa Tunnel

 It was a trail of 750 kms. roundtrip. This was long and for three days it turned out to be an endurance trail, alot of mechanical pressure on our vehicles and ourselves, along the way.

 Here is a picture of the whole route:

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mapa_Google_Ruta_Completa_Lalinda.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 05:25:20 PM
Well we did not travel too long , 96 Kms. , before tragedy struck. We were eager to push forward, were all a little bit nervous to get in to a back country, very few people get a chane to go and i was laughing at my copilot because he was getting nervous that we were the only pick up that was not engaging it's fourwheel  drive...we never needed it, since we had a lift kit of 15" from wheelbase.

 But it hit us from another angle: The two sets of the front wheel bearings completely broke off, taking out our front tire from the front axle and we buried the truck for about 7 ft. in length before coming to a dead stop.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_1.JPG)

 I was comp,etely surprised by it. I had installed everything brand new and i thought nothing could beat us that would be thrown our way, guess i was wrong.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_2.JPG)

 There was no way we would be moving forward, not on that condition and then we had to ponder the situation. See my options.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_3.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Casa Grande on July 01, 2007, 05:37:55 PM
looking forward to the rest of the story!!  I love it!  That would have been a trip of a lifetime for me.....
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 05:43:51 PM
Well my truck was pretty much done for, maybe even my trip as well. There was no way i was going anywhere, my only option was to stay there until someone happened to pass by the road and take me back to Ciudad Acu?a to get parts, a mechanic...basic help.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_9.JPG)

 But it was Friday afternoon, the parts i needed were not readily on hand , even on a parts store, any of my mechanics were not available until I could call them on the cellphone and i would not get a signal until i reach back Acu?a. So my options were beggining to fizz away.

 Salvador Gonzalez is a Quadracer, he is a member of Acu?a Extremo, and he is very handy with his camera. He uploaded a video of how i was feeling at the time. Eventhough i never said a word, my face was starting to give me away with the frustation of not being able to go on, to see all that planning go away in a snap, to be so close and not even getting to the middle of the road of the trip. Man, it was hard.

 Here is the video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tqb0pdHkapM)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: "Casa Grande"
looking forward to the rest of the story!!  I love it!  That would have been a trip of a lifetime for me.....


 Yeap CG, it sure turned out to be a trip of a lifetime, it was totally unexpected to live this, but Oh man!!, we had lots more to be thrown our way. What a trip, we came back more confident, more close than any trip could have done it like this one did.

 Well it was dark, the backcountry where i was broken down is more like a prairie, it is good cattle country, nice place to get ground water for the cattle to drink and the land seems to be very good for ranching. But at night , it was cold. Cold, like a night in June...yeah Right ! What night in June?, it was so strangely cold that i set up my tent, i was not hungry, i was feeling depressed, my friends were getting a feeling that the trip was blown over by what happenend to me. They never said a word, but i saw it in their faces, they were very supportive towards me, but they felt frustated that it could mean a trip thrown out the window. I just could not bear  that, i could not carry that feeling with me, it was too much .

 I had to make a decision. So i started pitching my tent, and that gave me time to take 3 steps back , look at the situation, ponder my perspectives and make a sound decision.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_13.JPG)

 Well they made dinner, but i was no where near hungry given all the things i had in my mind. I had to really do some deep thinking and decide: They were in no way going to let me be stranded in the backcountry, they were going to sit tight along with me until i decided what to do. Pretty close friends i would say would do that to a friend. I was among a good crowd.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_11.JPG)

 Well  i went to bed at around 4:30 am , hearing the other ones what to do, seeing where i was, reaching for help in the near by ranches, to see if we could haul it to a near ranch door and leave it inside, but the truck was very heavy and tall , there was no way i was going to move that piece of metal. Something had to be determine on site.

 Well by 7:am i was up, went over the truck again and saw that there was  the main road at the back, that broke in to three smaller ones and those were used to outwalk some thight places that when it rain, were nearly impossible to go thru because of the mudpiles. I guessed it was well hidden from the main road, because just then another diesel truck pass me by heading towards Acu?a, i waced at it but never saw me. I was well hidden from the road.

 It could work !!, i thought . Maybe it could hide among the treelines and shrubs. It is painted black , so it very well blends with the green background and looks like a shadow.

 Right there, i made my decision: Ditch the truck, head on with the trip , return as soon as i get back to my house and hope no one sees it in the meantime, break a glass and get everything out of the cabin.

I made my decision, gathered everyone around, let them know of my decision and suggested we move forward. There was nothing else i could do, except to try to enjoy the rest of the trip and hope when i get back the truck was going to be there and complete. I crossed my fingers and moved on.

 So we pass to the other trucks what we could push inside of the truck boxes, and the rest i put it inside of the cabin. Left there and took off. We had a group of friends to meet at Ejido Carranza.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Tonka_Problems_12.JPG)

  Google waypoint, where i left my truck:   29.39183N, 101.82707W
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Big Bender on July 01, 2007, 08:05:27 PM
Homero,

Don't leave us hanging, I'm out of town from July 4 to the 15th, heading to Colorado, you got to finish this before I leave.

Big Bender
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: BigBendHiker on July 01, 2007, 09:18:14 PM
Hi Homero!
Thanks for the report!  Great story and the pics of the damaged wheel are something to see.  You mentioned that there are mines you visited.  What sort of mining did they do in that area?

BBH
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: "Big Bender"
Homero,

Don't leave us hanging, I'm out of town from July 4 to the 15th, heading to Colorado, you got to finish this before I leave.

Big Bender


 BBH, and the rest of the crowd. I know that your eager for me to finish this one, the clips pics and stories are all for you, but here at home i also have 3 little girls to tackle , plus my sister dumped my nephew along the way. And tomorrow i have a gradutaion to attend , so bear with me while i give it my best shot. I will do what i can to finish this before you leave, BBH.

  Plus i told my wife that i was writting up a contract online , so she would not whizz around to see what i was doing....LOL: just don't tell or i'm done for. hahahaha !!!. Woooooooo !!!, long live marriage,huh ? :lol:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 01, 2007, 09:47:33 PM
Not a problem, Homero.  An incredible loop.  Almost too much ground to enjoy given the time allotted.  

I wish to understand how your wheel suddenly fell off!

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 09:57:27 PM
If you follow up the coordinates on Google Earth, you will see that back country has alot of prairie mixed with desert flora...Completely new to me , that Ocotillo & Yucca could mix on the same ground with Mezquite, Prairie Grass & shrubs.

 Well, we pushed forward to reach Santo Toribio Ranch where the owner happened to be around , He is from Acu?a, we stumble with him on the Camino Real, the term Camino Real is used to the free road all the ranchers have to gain entry to their properties, it is usually federal land and it that is the place where you see the ranchers. Unfortunately you also see the Mojado crossers and the drug runners. But these people, only travel at night. I did not come across with any of them.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Santo_Toribio.JPG)
 Well we talked to Dr. Alberto De Luna and told him what had happened, where the truck was and what were my chances to leave it there. He said that he crossed that road a couple of times last night and early in the morning , and he saw nothing , he knew where the truck was from the description of the road where we left it, but never saw it.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Santo_Toribio_2.JPG)

 That was relaxing for me to hear that, being that this man gets to and from the place every week , he should know better if he would have stumble with the truck at any given moment and if anybody would have seen it, it would be him.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Santo_Toribio_3.JPG)

 Right afterwards, another man came to meet us at the spot, he is a cattle runner and runs the corridor daily between all of the ranches of the vecinity and Acu?a: we are talking 1,000,000 hectares of land that runs daily. We told him where the truck was , he had just passed thru it and did not see it . So it reafirmed me that it was a good spot to hide the truck until i got back to it. On we went.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Casa Grande on July 01, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
take your time  :nailbitting:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 10:02:20 PM
Quote from: "Al"
Not a problem, Homero.  An incredible loop.  Almost too much ground to enjoy given the time allotted.  

I wish to understand how your wheel suddenly fell off!

Al


 Yes Al...the wheel came off, from one of the bearings smahing the other one to metal dust, thus the wheel came spinning right off.

 The weird thing, is that i had just changed everything new. Go figure.

 Al, I have a surprise for you. I remembered you while i was out there, just follow the story please.... :D
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 10:18:31 PM
It was time to push forward, we had to cross El Ca?on del Colorado if were to meet our friends from Sabinas 4x4, and we did not know exactly how much time we had ahead of us to reach the place...Pedal to the metal, folks.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Canon_del_Colorado.JPG)

 This the entry way to Ca?on del Colorado, it is a small set of ridges and mountainous terrain where while were there it rained on us. It was a reminder that the Serrania del Burro had its own weather, and it could be pouring rain, thunderstorms and lightining and you just exited the Ca?on and the temperatures would be scorching right up in the 110? F , what change of climates, plus any rains that we would have gotten there , wuold stay there. I had never seen a climate like that. It is one thing to read here, from the contributors and a totally different thing to live it there. You had ti be there folks, to feel that weird sort of sensation i felt.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Canon_del_Colorado_2.JPG)

 Even the Flora changed on us for the time we crossed the Ca?on del Colorado.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 10:22:28 PM
The Ca?on del Colorado was to be the place where we were going to spend the night, in a cool cedar environment. There were plenty of areas to set up camp, but given my truck problems we had to whizz across the Ca?on as fast as possible.

 The smells of the Canyon were awsome , and the views from the ground up were spectacular.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: 01ACRViper on July 01, 2007, 10:27:14 PM
that's too bad about your truck :9 i'm glad you got to continue on, i can't wait to hear about the rest of the story!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 10:33:03 PM
We passed thru Ejido Carranza, but our ligistics failed. This was not the fork on the road, they (Sabinas 4x4) could not have deviated from the course of the road and come here, it would be illogical to do this. The place where we would see them would be El Paso de Las Cabras , it was a place where you had to come thru if you were coming from Muzquiz and El Melon and turn towards La Linda. It was hot there, almost over 110?F...but to me it was: HELL !!!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerta_de_las_cabras_1.jpg)

 Scorching was an understatement, it was hot but we could see more than 10 kilometers in either direction, if they were coming we would se them from a far.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerta_de_las_cabras_2.jpg)
 And i had left my sunglasses at my truck, what a time to remember that. I laugh now, but there i could not keep my eyes open from the reflection of the sun on the ground.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: "01ACRViper"
that's too bad about your truck :9 i'm glad you got to continue on, i can't wait to hear about the rest of the story!


 You were missed Viper, everybody was asking for you, i told them about your job opportunity. They understood. :cry:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 01, 2007, 10:49:31 PM
I'll try to be good . . . but do not diddle too long or I'll start guessing!

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 11:00:16 PM
So we were there, no shade , bearing the heat and making time for our friends to come there and meet them. I was starting to grow impatient.... I knew i was NOT alone. :?
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerta_de_las_cabras_7.jpg)

 I took the opportunity to snap some pics for you guys, my boots were cooking my feet and eventhough i was wearing shorts , it was not enough. It was boiling hot...2 o'clock in the afternoon. 115?F ....HELL ON EARTH !!! :shock:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerta_de_las_cabras_8.jpg)


 I went up to this hill, to maybe see more far away..i was hoping to get some dust trail, some hint that they were coming to us...NADA !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerta_de_las_cabras_9.jpg)

 The fellas were gassing up, checking the tires , water levels on the radiators and deposits...making time. I was getting worried that something might have happened to them. But back in my mind, i was thinking of my truck. There was nothing i could do at this point. Just nothing. 8-[
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerta_de_las_cabras_10.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 01, 2007, 11:13:16 PM
Well as soon as i came down, the fellas approach me and ask me what should we do?, keep on waiting or should we push forward ith our planned trail ride? , hoping that they (Sabinas 4x4) would do the same . This would mean waiting another 2 more hours, loose precious time, daylight more important and move on. Not many options to consider: On I said, we have to make for the time lost.

But we left them a rock sign, Impossible for them not to see it.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Go_to_La_Linda.jpg)

 It read: Sabinas 4x4...Acu?a Extremo: Go to Linda.

 Left a couple of empty Bottles , plus a carton sign. A truck trailer that was heading for AguaChile mine, stop with us and we asked him if had seen anybody coming this road, he said no one. We had to push forward, they were another big group, experinced as well. If were going to meet, it would have to be in La Linda. No other place left.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Hora_de_movernos.jpg)

More tomorrow, folks I have to go to sleep... :cry:.Tomorrow the mines: Pictures & Videos.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 10:42:17 PM
Well I'm back, sorry to keep you all waiting..moving right along.

 We got on the move having in sight to reach the Cuatro Palmas Mine, still we were kind of weery not being able to see our friends from Sabinas. We stumble with this big watering pool the locals use to water their cattle along the road.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Abrevadero.jpg)

 Megalo77, being thru that palce many times before said, it could be a good place to wait for the other fellas, so we took the opportunity to cool down a little bit , after going thru the Puerta de Las Cabras, which was hot like hell there. At least the winds were blowing a little cooler here.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Watering_hole_Aguachile.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 10:50:13 PM
After he decided to wait for them, We saw this interesting hill , until the time we did not it's name. It so happens to be the name of the mine we stumble upon: Mount Aguachile.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Agua_Chile_2.jpg)

 Agua Chile is a mine that is nestle on the grounds of this semicircular crater like ridge which is full of Fluorite,this mineral was the one that was processed in La Linda, in it's heydays and the main source to mine it was the 4 Palmas Mine.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mapa_Google_Aguachile.JPG)

Still it was tempting to see it and not investigate it, while we were there. We had to go and see. Megalo77 decided to wait, check it's truck . It started to present , also, mechanical problems but he did not wanted to tell us until he checked it out thouroughly.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Agua_Chile_3.jpg)

 Google waypoint for this Mine: 29.24619N, 102.53531W
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 04, 2007, 10:56:00 PM
Looks like the trip is taking its toll on the older Ford trucks . . .

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 10:59:24 PM
We took off to see this place, still not knowing where we were headed. It was an adrenaline rush just to be where you had no idea where were you going...Oh, the adventure !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Puerto_de-Aguachile.JPG)
  We saw this sign that read: Mina Aguachile 2 km...straight up. Muzquiz 213 kms. We looked at each other, eyes staring at each other: what the hell !, were here right?.....lets go for broke, everybody !!!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Anuncio_a_mina_aguachile.jpg)

 We went on.....God knows where we were going, not us. Our nerves were like glass, brittle to the first reaction. LETS GO !!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 11:01:37 PM
Quote from: "Al"
Looks like the trip is taking its toll on the older Ford trucks . . .

Al


 hahahaha...it was NOT a good day for Ford.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 11:13:30 PM
So we stopped , and i took the opportunity to catch one of my favorite mountainside: Maderas Del Carmen. I love this as a backdrop of a fantastic mountain side view.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Maderas_Del_Carmen_2.jpg)

 So close, and yet so far.

 We came upon the maingate, where Don Gilberto was the gate keeper.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Don_Gilberto_Guardia.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Ruta_La_Linda_097.jpg)
 Time to get off the truck and negotiate our entry, being out here. Nobody coming at all, for nothing I thought it would not be difficult...luckily for me , it was not.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Sacando_permiso.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 11:34:12 PM
Nothing two cans of Tecate Light could not handle.
 We went on...interesting to see how they carved the inner part of the mountain to make  way for the cargo trucks to go in and out.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mina_Aguachile_3.JPG)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mina_Aguachile_4.jpg)
 It still was hot, that Saturday in the afternoon...
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mina_Aguachile_5.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 04, 2007, 11:49:09 PM
Then , it opened up....a whole stadium like sorrounding, there were many operations going on. Stone pickers, Low end Front loaders, Truck Hoppers, Mineral breakers,a mill....many operations.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Ruta_La_Linda_100.jpg)

 We had to get a final say from the Mine superintendent: Don Pepe. He was nowhere in sight. :?
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/100_3029.JPG)

 Where else could he be?, we had to get out and look for him. The people were stranged to see us folks coming from so far away in to the mine site. We found him.

 Don Pepe, as he is know by his coworkers, named Servando Rodriguez, a real nice kind of guy. Very well mannered, very well educated, he was the superintendent of the Minera Muzquiz's Agua Chile Mine.

 We identified ourselves, explained who we were , what were we doing there and our interest to know the mine. The coin was up in the air, we could have gotten kicked out of the premises or gotten the v.i.p. tour. We got the latter.....Thank God !!!

 Well before he took us to the mine site, he explained a little bit of the company was mining the mountainside in a gap like mining carving, very unique.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Servando_Rodriguez.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 12:04:25 AM
So we asked him, if he could take us in to the mine. He gladly said yes, He made time to cater  his visitors, explaining every step of the way, on of was relaying all the information thru the radios to the other vehicles...no one was ,making a sound . We were all ears to the sound of Don Pepe, and his mining activities...Awesom e !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mina_Aguachile_6.JPG)

  In to the caverns...mush !!!...Mush !!....no sound, what so ever just sheer excitment.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mina_Aguachile_7.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 12:11:52 AM
For those of you, who could not made it to this trip, but wanted to see it first in line, what my friend Salvador Gonzalez and Gilberto Sanchez were able to upload for you.....The Agua Chile Mine 1 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT8iRtZyCSo) .

 The adventure was picking up pace...silence at all  time: just sinking in all the information our eyes were capturing...we were at awe !!
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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 12:32:33 AM
 The  Aguachile Mine 2 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVMu3_2eoec), was the second face of how deep we were going in. It is spectacular to see this again.
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 We could see how the boring machines had carved their way in to this deeeep mine. I had never seen anything like this before. :shock:
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 I was recording this and snapping pictures like a Japanese, but i started to feel strange, I looked at my friends and at the same time they were looking at me: Is it me?...or are getting cold ?...Nah, It could not be.....or could it :?: . Man !!, all the things that were crossing our minds....but i could not avoid it, i felt it was getting cold outside of the truck. It could not be, how???.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 12:50:42 AM
 The Agua Chile Mine 3 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK_fIN3MlI) opens up to this spectacular open chamber like room, it is very big indeed and the cavernous diggins go down 2 Km down under...wow!!!.

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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 01:05:58 AM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mina_Aguachile_27.jpg)

 To my surprise, i saw many waterlines, zipping out of the mountain walls, Don Pepe said there are many waterlines like this every where. They form tinajas that come down to form small  water pools. I have never seen this before, but then again. I have not seen anything like all of these before.
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 We started to gather around this big chamber, looking up in to the sky , I could not help myself ask Don Pepe, what was going on with the temperature...every body felt it as well. He said : On any given day, the inside temperature inside of the mine was a cool 22?C colder than outside, so if it was a hot 45?C outside, inside was a cozy 23?C. Neato. I wanted to make camp there , for the night...Yeah, right !!!.
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 Watch Out, or that next step could be your last...Wooooo  :!:  :!:  :!: . A sheer 200 mt. Drop , before hitting the floor. You better know, what your doing :nailbitting:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 01:15:38 AM
Time to catch some air, after going on the edge of that dropzone, you were short of desperate air.
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 Don Pepe, started explaining how they tunneld the mine, and the future of the mine operations, they have deposits there for a good 50 years of mining none stop.
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He explained , how they ship the mineral to plants in Matamoros, The U.S. and other parts of the world. Very interesting, plus all the varieties and uses of the Flourite Mineral.
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 This is an upclose image of the raw Flourite, before they process it and grind it down  to other forms and granules.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 01:25:53 AM
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 Some final explanations of the uses of the Flourite mineral, and then time to record our visit there with a group shot.
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 This was an exiting visit, we learned so much . It was time to get out now, and move on to the next planned visit and the day was not even starting to dim...what an awsome day it was. I never remembered my truck at all, not after that experience.



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 We came up, took our final group picture along Don Pepe, outside his offices, thank him for that great tour and moved on. If this had been the end of the trail , i would have returned happy and greatful for seeing so much. But i had just reached the middle of the back trail trip. We had a good long haul to go.
 Our Next stop: The Cuatro Palmas Mine...see you tomorrow. Enjoy.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: TheWildWestGuy on July 05, 2007, 07:22:36 AM
Thanks for posting everything Homero - I love it.   Wish I could do something like that someday.  I can't think of anywhere in the USA where I could do anything similar to it.  
Hope your truck is OK - maybe you put the bearings in backwards (I did that once when I was young and the same thing happened).   Or maybe just bad luck.  Thanks again for posting this story I bet OKiehiker can't top this one!  And thanks for getting your friends on the "South Side" to join our chat page.   We need to get the bridge at La Linda reopened so that we can come on down sometime.. TWWG
Title: WOW!
Post by: SHANEA on July 05, 2007, 08:10:54 AM
Wow!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 05, 2007, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: "TheWildWestGuy"
Thanks for posting everything Homero - I love it.   Wish I could do something like that someday.  I can't think of anywhere in the USA where I could do anything similar to it.  
Hope your truck is OK - maybe you put the bearings in backwards (I did that once when I was young and the same thing happened).   Or maybe just bad luck.  Thanks again for posting this story I bet OKiehiker can't top this one!  And thanks for getting your friends on the "South Side" to join our chat page.   We need to get the bridge at La Linda reopened so that we can come on down sometime.. TWWG


 Thank you TWWG , this is the first trip for me totally focused to gather information and load it up on BBC, all this recording, videos and pictures are for all of you to enjoy. Try and follow it up with Google Earth as well, your going to love how we traveled the backcountry.

 What better way than to contribute with other friends from this side who have far more knowledge than me to the richness of this webpage, i hope i can bring in some more. There is always the language barrier that seems to hault more people contributing here.... :cry:
 Still more to come.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: SA Bill on July 05, 2007, 09:44:16 PM
Great report Homero! Thanks for "taking us along" with you. Hope your truck recovers to try again.
  Bill
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: 01ACRViper on July 05, 2007, 10:52:46 PM
awesome!

that would have been the highlight of the whole trip, a working mine. the mining industry is a great area of interest to me. next time, no obligation will keep me from coming down. keep posting the pictures and story, i'm enthralled
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Casa Grande on July 06, 2007, 07:51:06 AM
good stuff, Homero....I always wanted to know what that crater was that I kept seeing on Google Earth :D
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 06, 2007, 12:48:52 PM
Sorry folks, It has been a really Hectic week for me, i am trying to do my best and finish the trip report for all of you. I keep saying this, like a scratched record, but i think i should finish this story this weekend...tops.

  Thank you for your comments, this was done with all of you in mind.

Homero
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: WL2 on July 07, 2007, 09:27:13 AM
I am looking forward to finding out about your  truck.  As a semi-dedicated offroader I want to know what went wrong and how you did a field repair.  I like looking at the stuff the 4x4 club drives almost as much as the pictures of the area. :? Not really very green of me, but what can I say.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 08, 2007, 11:13:06 AM
Quote from: "WL2"
Not really very green of me, but what can I say.


'Put it in 4LO and lock it up'

The annual 'Chile Challenge' is held near  Las Cruces NM each February and is typically a very tough course.

Some 2006 photos can be seen here
http://www.webshots.com/search?query=Las+Cruces+Chile+Challenge+2006+049

But even this is no match for a motorcycle trials event where I watched a one-armed rider negotiate a 15' vertical face, in both directions, with complete control.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: BigBendHiker on July 08, 2007, 08:00:10 PM
Great report and pictures, Homero!  I love the ones of the mine.


BBH
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: "WL2"
I am looking forward to finding out about your  truck.  As a semi-dedicated offroader I want to know what went wrong and how you did a field repair.  I like looking at the stuff the 4x4 club drives almost as much as the pictures of the area. :? Not really very green of me, but what can I say.


 Well folks, after repairing the truck, getting my work done...swamped by now, one of my best friends was  ordained as a priest, cutting weeds at home,and family business and all. I want to get back to my unfinish business. Soo....

  Yes Mr. WL2...what happened is a very small thing that Dana Spicer upgraded two years after they release their front Dana 60 axle, what i consider to be the best front axle for 4x4's the market has to offer: What keeps in place the two bearings in place at the front tires on each side is a Spindle nut, held by a forged lock pin poorly design, at the time, and which is encapsulated by the Warn lockout hubs , just installed . It used to have Automatic lockout hubs , before the upgrade. They worked very poorly.

  Well this locking pin, being so reinforced and encapsulated it came loose and since it is forged and enclosed it started to do its dance on the whole chamber litterally smashing both of the bearings to pieces and thus making the wheel spin right off. Thank God, i was riding at 30 KPH at the time.

  Well I machined the sleeve where both of the bearing rests, upgarded the spindle nut to the modern Nut-Locking sleeve-Counter Nut. Making my front axle Bomb proof. When i went over to the Ford dealer to order the parts , they told me that little forged pin, was out of production because it had caused a lot of havoc, with many trucks on the road in accidents: REALLY :?:  :?:  :evil:  :evil: ...I would have never had any idea of such incidents......Man!!, now they tell me. Anyway, i am still upgrading more areas of the truck , we saw as worthy of, so it should come out of the shop by this weekend , at the most.

 Now, lets continue with the adventure...there is so much to share.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 08:42:02 PM
Quote from: "BigBendHiker"
Great report and pictures, Homero!  I love the ones of the mine.


BBH


 Maybe next time, you will be able to tag along..if it is not by these adventures the human spirit will dwindle in rutinity and will eventually live out its flame....So don't think too much and just go, all of you deserve some adventure.

Quote from: "SA Bill"
Great report Homero! Thanks for "taking us along" with you. Hope your truck recovers to try again.
  Bill


Thank you professor, the trip is not over yet...hahahaha  :!:  :!:

 Viper my man, keep enjoying brother.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 08:53:45 PM
Well before i leave completely the Aguachile mine, i just want to offer you the latest video by Gilberto Sanchez and his wife Arlene, whom both came along for the experience. IT is very good, Just  Click It Here  (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LT8iRtZyCSo)

My 1700 Post !!!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 09:03:26 PM
O.K..so we left Aguachile, not having on the back of our minds: " I have to come back again, someday"...the adventure was taking shape as just Awsome, we recieved permission to visit the Aguachile mine, where the La Linda operations use to get its major source of Flourite, they use to get it from other smaller mines, but Cuatro Palmas was its main money maker.

 The mine was totally abandoned , being overseen by a family who still do some left over mining.
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 We stopped to talk to the folks , that we had gotten permission from Don Pepe to visit the premises, and they gladly let us in, giving a warning of where we were heading.." Read the sign ", they said..." What sign "  :?: , I replied.

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THE SIGN....Forbidden to enter with out your full Security equipment and harness...... :-s .......OK, so whats with that, huh? :-k ..... :nailbitting:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 09:10:14 PM
We got to the entry way, took the pins off the main gate and went on...
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 Not knowing what was in front us...a landslide, a washed off road, a sudden drop...go figure. better if we send Mikey in front , he does everything...Yeah, lets send him to the front...he was Not Mikey, he was Ivan Valdez...
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Google Earth Coordinates for 4 Palmas: 29.28298N, 102.56898W
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 09:28:57 PM
The slope started of easily, nothing much to tackle or find the best way in.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/4_Palmas_6.jpg)

 The vehicle line, was forming to find the best way to help each other, should the need arrive.
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 I still could not see the bottom from here, but something really interesting , was starting to open up.
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 We stopped, right before we enter the snail like road, coming down like a vortex...it opened up...  Boom !!!, what a sight, a sudden rush of adrenaline came in...Incredible !!
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 It was , simply beyond belief, this incredible crater like mine was in the middle of nowhere, its downward spiral road, reached, according to Don Pepe , 1,500 mts. long and the crater had a depthness of 120 mts. Awsome !!
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 There was this whole of amazing chambers, opening and closing as the road went on, they were Humongous , by human standards. What mining engineering, was involved at the time to do this...beyond anyone's imagination, while we were there.
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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 09:58:37 PM
I couold not go inside the truck on this one, i just had to walk it off and let everything sink in, at its pace. I was going down, and i just could not close my mouth...I was just Awe struck at everything.

 I looked left and a window opened, then a wall of rock was there, the  panorama view opened, it was amazing to be in that place.
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Arlene...Gilberto's wife also got off the Landcruiser and caught this very good pic of the cave like exit on the winding road.
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 I looked up and saw this water lines, coming slowly down, sipping thru the rock reaching the bottom to form these little tinajas, and the windows i was coming across.
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 I am not sure , if you can see the drilling marks the Tamrock Driltech did while it was tunneling down..it is right below the Sun light, where the shadow starts.
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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 10:19:38 PM
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 I could not get enough of the sights this mine offered, this was a very unique experience to be living it. I knew that there were many people who had visited Cuatro Palmas in its heyday, along La Linda but they were either dead or had long ago left the area, thus making it a whole new area to rediscover...How ackward feeling that was, kind of like makes you reflect a little bit :-k

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 While i was taking this shot, i saw there was nothing to catch me if i were to tumble right off the cliff.. I kinda of got a little vertigo, hahaha !!!.

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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 10:32:02 PM
We pushed forward....
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We were recording everything in our path.
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Exiting one cave, then entering another...what an incredible sight :!:
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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 10:47:10 PM
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 I was walking down the road, then i turned right...how strange, there is an entrance to my right of the road, where everything was happening to my left...Time to check it out. I saw these brick like rocks , neatly formed and mortared each other, it was an air shaft.
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 It had this walled along the perimeter of the whole, so to keep water out of the hole.. " Lets go check it out " I said.
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Woah :!:  :!:  :!: ...that hole is deeep. Lets play it safe, guys !!!. Or not, we could just winch ourselves down and check it where it leads us...Nah !!!, better not. My mind was playing wargames on me..hahaha !!

 I walked around it and went to the very end.
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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 10:59:35 PM
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 These huge chambers suddenly open up on us, to my right. You felt like an ant there.
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 Iam not sure if you can distinguish the guy in the white T-Shirt. That is Rolando Pe?a.
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When i saw these shafts opening it reminded me of Shane's post on that bolivian Road...Dangerous... ...I want to go back , again...hahaha :twisted:
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 Jut see the proportion of the trucks Vs the size of that crater.
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more dead ends....
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Title: New Business
Post by: SHANEA on July 08, 2007, 11:13:20 PM
Homerboy, you can probably quit your day job and open up Homerboy's tour guide service to the mines of Mexico...
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 11:18:13 PM
We were checking everything out...Don't leave anything to wonder or chance. We have to take ourtime to sip everything in.
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Incredible halls opened up on us.....
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 Halls opening and then coming down to small caves, very interesting for anyone there.
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 I was walking along, then i looked up and saw this incredible opening right on top of me, it went up like forever...I was in  Cuatro Palmas Bliss.
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 One could appreciate the different colors of rocks along the pathway.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/4_Palmas_64.jpg)

 One could look back and still not get the grip on oneself to digest where one was..it is still incredible just sharing this with all of you.
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Title: Re: New Business
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: "SHANEA"
Homerboy, you can probably quit your day job and open up Homerboy's tour guide service to the mines of Mexico...


 Shane A my man, I want you to hold to that thought , until we reach LA LINDA, There are many issues i want to vent out with all of you to ponder. But i could not help think of you, if you would have made it to this trip.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 11:41:16 PM
We were starting to the see bottom, there was this mine front end loader. I know of them because i see them in my conveyor belt business, daily.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/4_Palmas_67.jpg)

 So there could still be some small operations going on in Cuatro Palmas ?, maybe so but it must have been very small. Probably not feasible enough, I think.
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 It looked as though , we were reaching our goal...Awsome !!
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 We were giving ourselves the thumbs up signal , overtaking another obstacle to our logs. Mine is right here, with you folks.\:D/
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/4_Palmas_77.jpg)

 I wanted to stake my flag on that sight, it was interesting i see these folks who look forward to stake theirs , when they climb a mountain or a wall. I wanted to do the same , when i reached the end of the mine. Makes me want to laugh, at the parody. :roflmao:
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 It was time to celebrate, we reached it...Mina Cuatro Palmas, it was a myth back in civilization, something to imagine . Well imagine no more, we were there, overcame it and we wanted to celebrate with a Barbecue, I just reminded them that we had not reached our campsite, we were a good 1-2 hours away from La Linda and Megalo77 was still on top side , waiting on our friends from Sabinas 4x4 to tag along. It was a laugh.
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Title: The Three Homero's
Post by: homerboy2u on July 08, 2007, 11:50:50 PM
Now this was a first for me, the three Homero's :
*H.Homero Fernandez
*Homero Jimenez (myself)
*Homero Navarrete
there was another Homero, Homero Falcon but we met up with him at La Linda....4 Homero's on this trip . I never expected this.
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Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 12:00:53 AM
Well, it was time to go topside again, and get on with our road to La Linda.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/4_Palmas_84.jpg)

 We were riding again, moving steadily a best pace possible. It was hard to go along with all the damaged road, washed off side roads and deep washes we had to cross. I expected a better road to La Linda, I was surprised to see this. Definetly it had been a long time since anybody crossed this path on a continues basis.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo.jpg)

 Then , to my surprise we had stumble upon Pico Etereo. My grandfather, was born around this place along time ago, when it was an Ejido or Village. It was long ago, and nobody in my family had come to this place, not even my Dad or his sisters. Wonderful.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo_2.jpg)

 I had seen this Redish Peak before from atop of Sierra Del Carmen, but not upclose . Not like this, this was an unexpected surprise to me.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo_3.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 09, 2007, 12:00:54 AM
Homero, you are da man!  Incredible access to the mine and photos.  You are redeemed!

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: "Al"
Homero, you are da man!  Incredible access to the mine and photos.  You are redeemed!

Al


 I still have your surprise , but i will post it tomorrow....I saw it, and inmediately said: This is for Al . He was the first there, if it had not been by you, I would have never even think of it. hahahaha !!!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 12:11:25 AM
I just could not even think of not getting a picture, with some of the guys in front of Pico Etereo. Snap :!:  :!: ...your on Big Bend Chat !!!.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo_5.jpg)

 These were some neat mountain ridges , along the Pico Etereo
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo_7.jpg)
We formed back again, and on we pushed.we were hauling derrier !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo_8.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 12:17:12 AM
One last from Pico Etereo, I think this was its best angle....Redish Rock Peak. It is unique in the area. There are not that many alike Pico Etereo.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Etereo_9.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 12:21:16 AM
Well , we put Pico Etereo behind us, it was time to aim for La Linda,Coahuila. The place where it still stands the last International Bridge in the state of Coahuila,Where it was closed down for Political Reasons, and the place where it was an enigma to know. But this , i will continue tomorrow, friends. Enjoy this, for now. Good Night everybody.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Ruta_La_Linda_134.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Vince T on July 09, 2007, 12:22:54 AM
Homero-
This is fantastic.  
I've pulled up Google Earth and have been trying to follow your trip.
That mine is pretty clear with the coordinates you gave.

I would have loved to be a part of that trip.  Sorry to hear about your truck though...that is a real bummer...but it sounded like you didn't let it hamper your trip too much.

Looking forward to more of your story.
Vince
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 09, 2007, 08:38:31 AM
Simply fabulous country to explore, ?que no?
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: "Vince T"
Homero-
This is fantastic.  
I've pulled up Google Earth and have been trying to follow your trip.
That mine is pretty clear with the coordinates you gave.

I would have loved to be a part of that trip.  Sorry to hear about your truck though...that is a real bummer...but it sounded like you didn't let it hamper your trip too much.
Looking forward to more of your story.
Vince


 Well my dear friend, that is what the coordinates are for, for all of you to follow up on the trail and its surroundings, i will post a resume of the coordinates at the very end.

Quote from: "presidio"
Simply fabulous country to explore, ?que no?


Queeee Nnnooooo :!: ....it does not cease to amaze, but you guys have some awsome terrritory to explore as well. You are just simply better organized and funded.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 09, 2007, 11:06:15 PM
Well friends, again i fail you in finishing this trip report with all the trimmings, it is 11:pm . i am beat but i wanted to go to sleep leaving our international trecker... Al , with the hint of the day: Just one look and it is going to be a sort where i am-where it sort of a game, like in the other thread.

 So Al :?: ..where is this hump at :?:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_Sierra_del_Carmen.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 09, 2007, 11:35:21 PM
Homero, I have never been to the east side of the del Carmens beyond the La Linda bridge or hiking distance of the river into Mexico.  It appears to be a striking igneous intrusion the name of which I do not know.  I wish I had a good topo then I would venture a guess . . .

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Vince T on July 10, 2007, 02:39:44 AM
Isn't that el pico?
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 10, 2007, 07:42:13 AM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
You are just simply better organized and funded.


'Ignore the little man behind the curtain'.

Man, have we got you fooled.

I don't think we've seen any other outing posted on this board with the scale, organizational complexity and cost of the escapades you regale us with.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 10, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: "Vince T"
Isn't that el pico?


 Two burgers and a year supply of Tide to Vincent T :!:  :!: ....Al, you disapoint me :cry: , you are the only one, that i know in this chatboard that has gone to El Pico in Sierra Del Carmen.

  :arrow: I thought , that was easy for you....El Pico, my friend , El Pico :?  :!:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 10, 2007, 09:08:32 AM
Quote from: "presidio"
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
You are just simply better organized and funded.


'Ignore the little man behind the curtain'.

Man, have we got you fooled.

I don't think we've seen any other outing posted on this board with the scale, organizational complexity and cost of the escapades you regale us with.


 Hahahahaaa......No, my very good friend . I meant the NPS offers you a better camping, hiking, trailing system than we could ever offer. When you go out to the backcountry in the States, is like a walk in the park :?:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 10, 2007, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
Quote from: "Vince T"
Isn't that el pico?


 Two burgers and a year supply of Tide to Vincent T :!:  :!: ....Al, you disapoint me :cry: , you are the only one, that i know in this chatboard that has gone to El Pico in Sierra Del Carmen.

  :arrow: I thought , that was easy for you....El Pico, my friend , El Pico :?  :!:


It was the obvious guess.  I will post some pictures this evening on why I did not expect El Pico to appear to be the only prominent peak one sees from the east.  Thanks for trying though Homero.

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 10, 2007, 09:53:25 AM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
I meant the NPS offers you a better camping, hiking, trailing system than we could ever offer. When you go out to the backcountry in the Stets, is like a walk in the park :?:


Ah, but you see, that is not what I am after. My interest is in the kind of exploration and travel that your group does and, except for the times I go to Big Bend (the only NP I visit) your style of activity is what I practice here.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 10, 2007, 10:10:47 PM
I thought some of this stuff would show up.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Looking_North_de_carmens.JPG)

Plus I didn't recognize the shape but I went back, reviewed my pictures and scanned this one in.  Looks like you took that shot from the east or east north east not too far from the mine?

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Pico_looking_west.JPG)

Homero, I knew you threw me a slow softball but couldn't resist the swing.

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 11, 2007, 12:35:55 AM
Yes, i took those pictures as you say, very near from the mines. But if it had not been by your posts of El Pico, I would have never even consider what that hump was.....Muchas Gracias :!:

  Presidio...You are more than welcome to tag along in our trips. I always post an invitation , before i go. Just imagine Casa Grande, Presidio, Shane,TWWG,Texasgirl,BBH on a camp fire in basecamp Sierra del Carmen, debating on many issues of life. Morning , would surely catch us....I would be snoring :oops:  :!:  :!: .

 Cant go that much long, at night.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 11, 2007, 12:39:27 AM
Homero, the pleasure is all mine.  Thanks!

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 11, 2007, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
 Presidio...You are more than welcome to tag along in our trips. I always post an invitation


Thanks. Someday.....
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: bdann on July 11, 2007, 10:46:32 AM
Just now catching up with this thread...
Homero, this stuff is really fantastic...keep it coming!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: "bdann"
Just now catching up with this thread...
Homero, this stuff is really fantastic...keep it coming!


 I was aiming at finishing the trip report, this weekend (July 14) , bu now i am having wire internet problems, again and the phone co. will be doing maintenance until Monday. I am not even at home, right now. I am pushing pencil and paper here at work. If it is up and going , i will post what i can, but if you see that i did not finish a certain post. You will understand why. I can?t seem to find the end of it. I want to finish this, yesterday.

 Regards
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: chisos_muse on July 14, 2007, 05:06:38 PM
Homero, I don't say this enough, but I'm saying it now......I enjoy your trip reports very much, and the way that you present them. We are quite lucky to have you here. :D
And I agree with Presidio on the fact that most of us here would prefer the raw journey without the amenities. In that part of the country anyway... :cool:  If I want pampering, I know where to go for that too :wink:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 06:54:39 PM
After continuing our trip , we started to see...out yonder...there it was: Mystical La Linda...the ghost town of Coahuila. Many stories i had heard about La Linda, too many ideas of what it was, how it was organized and operated, etc,e tc.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: "chisos_muse"
Homero, I don't say this enough, but I'm saying it now......I enjoy your trip reports very much, and the way that you present them. We are quite lucky to have you here. :D
And I agree with Presidio on the fact that most of us here would prefer the raw journey without the amenities. In that part of the country anyway... :cool:  If I want pampering, I know where to go for that too :wink:


 Well thank you Muse, it means alot coming from you....enjoy !!

 Funny thing happened to me yesterday while i was at work: I went over to Muzquiz Museum of Local History. The Curator showed me the place, and i stumble with these two pictures of 4 palmas, I asked her if she knew what they were from?. She said no, those pictures were donated by the time i came here, and we have no information of what they belong to. That was all i needed to explain to here what they were, where it was, what they opereted there, etc, etc. Most important, i gave a link to BBC and the La linda trip, , where she would find many more pictures and histories of the sight...ha !!

 Shane's Iglesita...i did not forget about you, young man :wink:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_2.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 07:12:22 PM
It was still early, about 5-6 pm and we had reached Megalo's La Tinaja  Ranch. It was surprising to see a person who still owned a piece of that history, it was so long ago, even longer than Megalo was born when this land was really booming, like there are very few witnesses to tell the tale.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_4.jpg)

 A beautiful mountain side view, at La tinaja. It was hot, really hot maybe too hot for me, but i did not care much  i was at La Linda.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_6.jpg)
I set up camp, helped others to set up camp and i was not hungry i was seeing the small houses , the church, the factory, i wanted to go there no matter what. There was so many things to check out. Either i had seen them on this webpage or i had seen here so many links to ,other sites where there were pcitures of La Linda bridge ...i just had to go.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_8.jpg)

 So turned each time i was snaping pictures to my left, catching as best as i could all the view my mind was capturing, i wanted it all...i was crazy. But then, again....Al came in focus once more...his El Pico once again was barely waving at me.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_9.jpg)

 Enough said, " who wants to go to La Linda...huh? ". I yelled. Almost everybody: Lets go, right now !!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 07:15:14 PM
I almost forgot...Google waypoint to La Tinaja: 29.44928N, 102.80693W
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 07:25:06 PM
Well the ghost town started to came closer, as we approached it...i saw how the desert had started to reclaim its territory, there was nothing the town could fight for.It was all alone fighting an international opponent know as The Chihuahuan Desert...slowly La Linda knew it did not stand a chance. Time would reclaim her.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_11.jpg)

 The mistery of La Linda, the rumors of the town, the way it was dispersed...alll was being answered to me as i kept approaching the town...I felt like an explorer.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_12.jpg)

 The factory from afar...this was to me a revelation, i had seen it before thru Bdann's post actually zeroing in the plant from Google Earth's, it was like seeing the pyramids for the first time..hahaha...scou t's honor i felt that way.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_14.YA.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 07:34:35 PM
This is the Customs House on the Mexican side, there is no International Customs house on the U.S. side....
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_17.YA.jpg)

 Now the story goes, that back in 1996 when two mexican custom agents were posted at La Linda, there was no traffic of any kind. La Linda was long ago closed, the bridge was the only thing left still operating. At least nothing Legal, it was booming with illegal activity.

 Trafickers of everything: Heavy Eq. parts, poultry,used clothing, canned food, electronics...and ofcourse: Drugs...lots of drugs. There was no real inspection of the area and thus it was a smuggler's paradise.

 Well the drug smugglers approached the custom house, trying to cross a load, so the story goes, and the agents never came to terms with them so a shoot out occurd killing one Mexican Agent, and hurting the other one. the Drug smugglers ran away, i don't know if anybody on their side was hurt or not. The one who was left bleeding....some how, managed to crawl himself to the telephone, that is actually not working anymore since 3 years a go. Called the Stillwell house for help and was rescued to a nearby hospital. And months later it was sealed...the bridge was closed down for good.

  The Mexican Government ordered a BIG Cube of cement dropped at the Bridge, and left the area for good. :cry: ...Bummer !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_18.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
Well i wanted to catch something that we had all seen in reference before, something that could help see how the deterioration was slowly reclaiming the sight....I think i found it.
THEN....2001
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Miguelito_La_Linda.jpg)
 NOW...2007
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_19.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 08:11:25 PM
We took position to catch the moment, first The Sanchez...they looked good.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_22.jpg)

 Then who else?...me of course, I had to appear somewhere.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_25.jpg)

 I WAS THERE !!!....I really was there to celebrate, It was time to open up a good cold brew of Tecate Light...Cheers, everybody !!!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 08:49:59 PM
Inmediately to my left, there was this little bridge, must have been some sort of maintenance walkway i am not sure if it crossed over to the states.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_38.JPG)
 Then another one facing the Plant...snap !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_26.jpg)
Then came the turn to catch the Rio Bravo ( Grande) River...Choclotally as it was, I knew why.... :lol:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_28.jpg)
 Thsi picture was funny to me because Fred Keller was telling us that many school kids come here on Springbreak week and hang down at the beach...Beach?...where is the beach, Fred?.

 Folks...THE BEACH...La Linda Style (those white rocks that come sown to the edge of the river on the left side, that's the beach).. :lol: , You go figure, who am i to argue with Fred's Beach. :-k
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_29.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 09:05:06 PM
Ackward it was to see that the guard rails were made of wood. It obviously was an International Bridge, but it met the most basic of standards to comply as an international bridge...one lane bridge, no customs house it only had served the big trucks who were crossing processed flourite to the states, if you wanted to go for a sodie pop, there must have been a little tiendita in La Linda, but if you wanted to get the latest gossip, news, friends talking,. you had to go to Stillwell. No other place near there.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_31.jpg)
 The international post, it denotated where was the U.S. side ...and the Mexican side.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_32.jpg)

 A view from the states side...
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_35.jpg)
Funny thing was that the screen was not on the limit between the two countries, it was more in to the states side. Somebody overlooked it or nobody cared anymore...maybe the latter.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_40.JPG)
 strange to see this ladder in the middle of the bridge, with an opening to screen and a gap to jump over or move something over....
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_41.jpg)
Title: Fred Keller
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 09:24:42 PM
This the best picture i could take of Fred Keller. He is very friendly,who wouldn't after being the only soul in that vast desert, until you reach Stilwell. He is a volunteer with the Blackgap Wildlife Management Area, he is a snake surveyor volunteer.He has the cap to prove it...so he said.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Fred_Keller.jpg)

 He spends his days just hanging around , drinking , catching catfish, and ever so often he does cross over to La Linda. He has been everywhere in the area, he explores all the sights as best as possible as he can. He has all the time in the world.
Title: Reflections
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 09:30:06 PM
Now a picture worth a 1000 words...some very good old friends sharing the good news: From The Marathon Reader: There is a good chance that the La Linda Bridge may reopen. Fred had the piece of newspaper he was sharing it with Eduardo Fuentes , Megalo77 and hoping everything would reopen a.s.a.p.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Fred_Keller_Eduardo_fuentes.jpg)

 Kind of like what i was hoping to do someday with many of you folks who visit this website. It looks as though i am not alone.
Title: SOME REFLECTIONS
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 09:53:01 PM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_37.jpg)

 Now i needed to reflect a little bit on matters of La Linda;

 With the currrent conditions of the road on the mexican side, there was no way any normal folks would travel down to La Linda, not when most everybody is driving Toyota's , Honda's , Chevys and Kia's if any chance that any tourists would come , it would be from the U.S. side.

  Now, to what purpose?, La Linda , right now, offers nothing except that is a ghost town and there are many things to collect..like if your a trash junkie than you will go wild picking up a logbook from the previous shift , notating all the pending chores to do for the following shift and the observations logged from the closing one.

 There are very few attractions there, The mexican side is absolutely prohibited to travel to , unless you go with a big group and very well prepared, because it offers only the mines as a sight seeing center. Those are very good, indeed.

 Right now, that ladder in the bridge was used by drug smugglers to cross a load of Mugrero.  Nobody is going to and from La Linda, there is no purpose to do so. If this reopens again, it will be just a tourist place to serve anybody coming from the states, but without the lack of survelillance from the Mexican side , along all this overlooking of the Border Guards from the states side, then it is un attractive to any visitor to go down there and explore the place.

 
Quote from: "SHANEA"
Homerboy, you can probably quit your day job and open up Homerboy's tour guide service to the mines of Mexico...


 Picking up Shane's quote, i thought a little bit. If anybody would organize a trip to the mines , as a day trip, it could be worthwhile coming from the states, but if you want to hang around La Linda, stay the night over it is very well  a dangerous place to be, unless it is guarded by police, then it can be normal again to do alot of things.

 It hurts me the most to say these things , but that is the dog gone honest truth, and i could not recommend visiting La Linda coming from Mexico, unless better safer conditions are met.
  Of course all of these could change , in the very near future. Just yesterday i read over the news paper, that there is a planned road to be built from Ojinaga, Chihuahua down to Ciudad Acu?a...a scenic road much like Hwy 90 in the states. That is awsome news to hear, because that means that the area can be reawaken once again, and more folks would flock down to the area to a point where it would be a worthwhile idea to open up a Mexican restaurant, a barber shop,mexican souvenir shop, a gas station,etc, etc.

 But all of this is in the future, as of now we have still to wait. That is my honest and humble opinion.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 10:07:12 PM
Night started to settle in, it was time to say goodbye to Fred Keller. Time to headback to our campsite.

  We arrived there and to our surprise one of the men who were there to pick up some junkyard pieces caught a catfish...he said he had stumble with fred's fish lines earlier in the day, and talked a little bit with fred himself. I told him i had met him in the bridge.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_48.jpg)
 Ugly looking fish.... :shock:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_49.JPG)
Title: THE LA LINDA SHOWERS
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 10:15:50 PM
I had remember the Basin showers from many posts , around here and how they were welcomed after a long day of hiking. To be honest I was really tired , but full of adrenaline i was sweaty,,dirty and i had grease from my truck and grime. I smelled like hell and i was in desperate need of a shower, any kind would do at the time.

  Well the La Linda Shower was readily available, with a catfish inside...hahahahaha !!!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_50.jpg)

 Man !!!...the water was cold, i welcomed it like a kid welcomes his moms arms anytime. it was paradise to me.

 The scrubbing area...what a laugh, it was awsome to have all of these things here , at La Linda...Cool running water from a well powered by Megalo77's power plant, a scrubbing area...do it yourself guys, no coin operated gizmo here... :lol: , and an awsome sky.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_51.jpg)
 Cinderblock, cost extra....
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 14, 2007, 10:20:25 PM
Homero, great pictures.  Thanks!  I wish the La Linda bridge was on the western side of the del Carmens.

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 14, 2007, 10:25:28 PM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_53.jpg)

 Well it was the end of a wonderfull day. We had visited two amazing mines,finally came down to La Linda, spend the whole afternoon in the bridge, i had left my truck God knows where, it was on his hands i alwaysa said. We were all bloated, nobody had gone to the bathroom in 2 days....tonight, nobody was going to go either.

   We had a great dinner, had a fantastic group talk, everybody gathered around and touched basis on many issues, even our friends from Sabinas 4x4. I made some fantastic friends, those who are always next to you when in time of need, giving their all with out even knowing you. I could not ask for more....maybe some time to go to the bathroom , but this would come when i came back home. To everybody, i later asked.

  We were having some good quality time, and night time had turned breezy and cool. What strange feeling to be there, in the desert and be cool and windy.

 I had a specatular sleep..you folks should too. I will see you tomorrow and finish my trip. that is if i don't have internet problems again.

 Good night every body,sweet dreams.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 14, 2007, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
Well it was the end of a wonderfull day.


Great story and great trip. There are so many people who would never think of taking that kind of excursion....and they will never know what they are missing.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 15, 2007, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: "Al"
Homero, great pictures.  Thanks!  I wish the La Linda bridge was on the western side of the del Carmens.

Al


 Well ain't that something to wish for, Al...include me in friend.

Quote from: "presidio"
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
Well it was the end of a wonderfull day.


Great story and great trip. There are so many people who would never think of taking that kind of excursion....and they will never know what they are missing.


 One thing i hope to do here, is to give people who read this trip reports to give themselves permission to go ahead and venture on something they would never gather the courage to do so....Hope somebody picks ups the coin here.
Title: thanks
Post by: MJ on July 17, 2007, 10:04:15 AM
great post / trip report - one of the best / most entertaining I've seen anywhere on the net

thanks for sharing Homero
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Vince T on July 17, 2007, 05:50:36 PM
Homero-
Very interesting pictures and commentary at La Linda.
Thank you again for sharing.
You may have posted this, but what is happening with your truck?
Vince
Title: Beyond
Post by: SHANEA on July 17, 2007, 07:36:18 PM
Thank you Homero.  Beyond incredible.   Thank you so much.   :ranger:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 10:21:37 PM
Thank you, everybody...but?. I thought you were enjoying my trip report. What?...leaving so soon?. Better hurry up, or i am going to have to turn off the lights here.

 Lets move on:!:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 10:38:49 PM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_56.jpg)

 Morning hit early at 7 am. The heat woke everyone up, after a breezy night. It was around 33?C so it was warm. Made some extraordinary breakfast,everybody pitched in to help out.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_57.jpg)

 Being short on food, was NOT going to be part of the trip, it never was an option.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_58.jpg)

Delicious corn & Flour tortillas were being throw at the comal and picked up as fast as they could grab them.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_59.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_60.jpg)

 Watching every aspect of this trip made me capture many pics that i would never even consider berfore, like this breakfast. I would have never taken a picture of a meal before, but since Shane has posted many pictures of camp meals, i thought it could be important to share what we have on every sit in. Go figure !!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 10:49:33 PM
Time for a quick picture, every one was ready, we had an awsome breakfast, the jokes were flying back and forth. What a great trip to go be in. My truck was still dead in the water, but there was no space in my mind to think of it, not at that moment. It was in God's hands.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_62.jpg)

 It was scorching , again...41?C at least. I hate heat. :evil:

 So we saddle up, mountaed up, locked and loaded, then we moved out. La Tinaja Ranch , was now in our backs.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_63.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_65.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_66.JPG)
Google waypoint , for la Tinaja:  29.44928N, 102.80693W
Title: Yummy.
Post by: SHANEA on July 17, 2007, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"

 Watching every aspect of this trip made me capture many pics that i would never even consider berfore, like this breakfast. I would have never taken a picture of a meal before, but since Shane has posted many pictures of camp meals, i thought it could be important to share what we have on every sit in. Go figure !!


Lookin good.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:02:20 PM
We got to the plant. Eduardo Fuentes was the guide, it was his fist time at the sight...Hmm, I wonder why?, and i caught him with a nice background of the La Domincia Plant.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Eduardo_Fuentes.jpg)

 The gate to the plant, was almost falling off from its post. It was in that position for so many years with out any maintenance, thta it was a surprise to see so many things in tip top condition. :shock:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_69.jpg)
 Part of the road , was already washing off because of the lack of maintenance. All was abandoned.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_71.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_76.jpg)
  We took the opportunity to take the vehicle shot in the site, on this trip all were trucks, it was a first for me.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_78.jpg)

 According from what i have read here on the board, it was Henry Dupont who built the plant here. I don't know who owns La Domincia Mine Co. , or if its still operating in some other place.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:13:24 PM
Exactly to my left side, facing the plant was this maintenance bridge, I did not went there, it was far away and i wanted to go inside of the plant...check it out.You know.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_79.jpg)

 I am not even sure if that bridge crossed to the states side, since the river turns every so often before passing near the plant, but to say it clear , the plant is on the Mexican side.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_82.jpg)
 In the background, is Blackgap Wildlife Mangent area, the Rio Grande River zig zagging along the course.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_83.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_85.jpg)
 A group picture, before entering the plant.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:20:54 PM
Use of respiratory safety equipment is obligatory while the hoppers are being loaded.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_87.jpg)
 Some pictures  outside  the plant , before going inside. Believe me, it was dangerous to walk around alone. There were some floor openings to BIG water deposits with chemicals of some sort, one small step there, you were glaring at a spot and did not see where you step in, and bye bye buddy...no one would ever find you there.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_88.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_90.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_91.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:27:32 PM
Then, we hit the inside...awsome !!...and dangerous :shock:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_92.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_94.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_96.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_97.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_98.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 17, 2007, 11:32:03 PM
.
Homero, this looks like the breakfast of champions.  You have most of the essential food groups all on one plate!

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Breakfast.JPG)


Al

P.S. Did y'all drive with your windows down?
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:42:29 PM
Somebody said, why don't we go up to the silos?, i could not agree anymore..ofcourse , we should go. It could very well be my last time i go there...who knows?.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_99.jpg)

 We even managed to catch a
VIDEO (http://youtube.com/watch?v=SPIR68ZfZ3w) OF IT
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:45:16 PM
Windows down...buttcheeks on the windows, for a good long while, man :!:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:47:20 PM
Last two on the plant...everyone !!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_100.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_102.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:53:41 PM
So we headed over again to the bridge to capture the official destiny captured by a group picture. They wanted to hit the road real quick, push pedal to the metal so there was not a chance to say goodbye to Fred Keller.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_103.jpg)
I MADE IT...LA LINDA...I REALLY DID IT :!:  :!: ..... Everybody was feeling great, after all that we have been thru. Of course, ther was reason to celebrate.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_104.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_105.jpg)
 I was hesitant to upload this picture...but !!!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 17, 2007, 11:56:46 PM
Last picture in La Linda :!:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_107.jpg)


Goggle waypoint for La Linda: 29.44815N, 102.81498W
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 18, 2007, 12:04:42 AM
Homero, you are exactly right.  A trip that will never be repeated.

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 12:18:46 AM
I really really tried to get to the Church , it was an obligated stop to go there, tour inside get some pictures and capture it for the first time, so to speak. But the road to the Church , was next to impossible to get there: alot of wash offs, grown desert plants, no visible road to followand was confusing at times to see it in one place, follow a barely visible road and then to miss it completely.

  We even got one of the trucks stuck in the river banks, with sand all over it. It manged to get off by itself,but i had to call it quits and maybe return another day to capture it , by my self. Bummer :cry:  :!:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on July 18, 2007, 12:32:30 AM
There is always more to do.  I just want to know how y'all carried all that gas/fuel for such a long trip, and of course how your truck is doing . . .

Al
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 12:35:04 AM
So we left La Linda in our backs !!!...reflecting along the dirt bumpy road what we had accomplish during the last three days. Everyone was really celebrating, hi fiing everyone, yelling, jumping at ever techstop, joking ...really feeling happy for themselves. But htere was one more surprise , i had under my sleeve..hehehehe  :twisted:  :!:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon.jpg)
 We were on our way to Military Station El Melon.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_2.JPG)
  The sky was turning grey...thunderstorm s were being heard from afar...out yonder to be exact !!

 I had seen this part of the siewrras before #-o ...whre was it?...where was it?
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_5.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_6.jpg)
 I could not exactly put the place on my head...but all i could think off, was Google Earth :-k
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_7.jpg)

 Of course :!:  :!: ...MADERAS EL CARMEN...Of course, just this was the back part. I have seen the front face, and now i was in the back face. AWSOME...My favorite Sierra Vista.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_8.jpg)
 And like the Book The Call of The Mountains states: It is a mountainous system where, like Sieera del Burro , has its own weather climate year round, and it was raining on top . We recieved some rain drops from the gathering storms...they were really thundering that day.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_9.jpg)
If we would stayed any longer there, we would have been caught in some real bad weather, like you could not believe it being in the desert, and all these forest areas just a couple of miles on top.
Title: Too Cool....
Post by: SHANEA on July 18, 2007, 12:36:57 AM
Quote
We even managed to catch a
VIDEO (http://youtube.com/watch?v=SPIR68ZfZ3w) OF IT


That video is too cool....   :cactuscheers:
Title: GBU
Post by: SHANEA on July 18, 2007, 12:41:28 AM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/La_Linda_Coahuila_105.jpg)
 I was hesitant to upload this picture...but !!!


Took me a second to figure out why.  Cool pic.  Reminds me of the Good - the Bad - and the Ugly....

That is one narrow bridge.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 12:45:11 AM
Quote from: "Al"
There is always more to do.  I just want to know how y'all carried all that gas/fuel for such a long trip, and of course how your truck is doing . . .

Al


 Of course Al, and Vicent T...it was simple: The trucks carried it for us, we never hussle a can of gas on our backs. We were prepared for everything. Over prepared if you aske me, but out there in the middle of nowhere, you are never over prepared.

 My truck. Iwent back there on Tuesday after we came back Sunday in the afternoon,and had already called my mechanic, relagated him the problem and on Monday morning i went over to Autozone to pick up the parts i was going to need. I took many pictures of the tire , for him to see the problem. He inmediately called a buddy of him, who specializes in 4x4 undercarriage, organize the trip back and on Tuesday at noon, headed back to my truck, it was around 1 pm.

  We arrived at 5:15 pm central, inmediatelly they went to work on it, Nothing was missing, i could not believe it. I made a good lunch, we clean the grill and the plates right off, had a great talk and were out of the place by 8:30 pm , heading back home. We got to arrive , because we drove very slowly since one of the brakes in the back axle started to breakdown because of the over use. So we ended arriving Home in Piedras Negras at 4: am Wednesday morning...totally Beat.

  Today,Tuesday i went over to pick up the truck after much machining, upgrading, replacing many parts and bring it up to modern days. I finished my truck and i am rady to hit the trails soon. Not real soon, since i have been swamped with work and barely have i been able to finish this trip report..so maybe by Octuber or Novemeber i might be able to go out again.
Title: Re: GBU
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 12:48:55 AM
Quote from: "SHANEA"


Took me a second to figure out why.  Cool pic.  Reminds me of the Good - the Bad - and the Ugly....

That is one narrow bridge.


 To me it was more like The Crying Game.... :-s
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:01:01 AM
We reached the end of the dirt road.It ends precisely at Military Station El Melon, where the last stand of the law rests, any bad dealings,cattle stealings, drug runnings are reported at .

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_13.jpg)

 If you follow back the white trail, it drives back 4 hours stright to La Linda...4 hours away, and had just touched the half of the way back home.

 Our good deed of the day: On our way back, we stumble with these people. They had been left behind at La Linda. They were going to cross over to reach Fort Stockton, and get work there. They were swindle with $ 800.00 dlls  ahead..it was $ 3,200.00 dlls in all . They were told to stay put , while the guys who were going to take them across, got over to the bridge to see if the coast was clear. They neer returned for them, they had been 2 days going with out water or food.
 We ave them water,a dn took them along. They were really dehydrated.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_15.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:05:11 AM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_16.jpg)

 Another great picture of the trip at El Melon. Even Bono from U2 got in the act. Next to the guy in the green hat...you can't miss him :lol:
Title: El Melon
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:11:47 AM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Melon_18.jpg)
 I managed to sneak some picture fo EL MELON, since the soldiers would not let me get pictures of the place..oh well, just a couple, i never told them anything.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Sierra_Santa_Rosa.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Sierra_Santa_Rosa_2.jpg)
 The best i could do, with getting too much attention in the place, and then i would get the soldiers to take my camera away.. here it is with the Sierra La Encantada on the background...beauti full !!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:18:13 AM
In a way, I understood them: We were very tired, bloated and cosntipated . 3 days with out going to the bathroom, it can be a burden, we were missing our families, we wanted to go back...but I pushed them one more time, one worth their while move to the place it is called...EL TUNEL !!!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/Mapa_Google_El_Tunel_Santa_Rosa.JPG)

 I could not forgive myself , if i did not take them there. It was worth the while to get there.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:29:07 AM
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel.jpg)
 The sign to El Tunel.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_2.jpg)
 I was remembering the first time i got to El Tunel, it still had the same feeling on me....incredible to be there.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_3.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:33:18 AM
But just look at the view , from a top at the entrance to El Tunel..spectacular :!:  :!:
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_5.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_6.jpg)

 This is at the entrance at El Tunel...you just had to be there, folks !!!
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_10.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:36:42 AM
Here we were getting ready to enter the Tunel.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_12.jpg)

 Going in to the Tunnel
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_14.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:46:46 AM
With in the Tunnel.....
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_21.jpg)

 And now , some videos from the guys as a side dish...bon appetit :!:

VIDEO 1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=RjhPfcluS9E)
  VIDEO 2  (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ipWW9BtIh5c)
  VIDEO 3  (http://youtube.com/watch?v=gtNB5MUYDWk)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:54:09 AM
On the other side of the mountain
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_22.jpg)
 Coming out, of course.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_24.jpg)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 01:59:42 AM
When everybody came out, I think my friend Raymundo said. it would be a great idea of we had lunch outside of the tunnel...why not :!: . What a great way to end the trip...Cheers every body. Thank you for tagging along, on another greta trip on the Mexican side.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_26.jpg)
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_27.jpg)
Beef & Chicken Fajitas...some Turkey ham, chips, great beer and soft drinks. Wonderful !!!
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 02:03:00 AM
One final last look, at the entrance to El Valle de Colombia, before we headed back to the tunnel and then to Muzquiz.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_30.jpg)

 The winding road down to the bottom , to the highway and to civilization....dow n to La Quebrada.
(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/El_Tunel_32.JPG)
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 18, 2007, 02:11:38 AM
In all....755 km that we traveled. 3 days on the back country, and the most spectacular time anyone could have had in Mexico's Sierra lands in Coahuila.

 Google waypoints:

* Acu?a:          29.33581 N, 100.98714 W
* La Zorra:       29.23876 N, 101.53488 W
* Sta Eulalia:    29.22252 N, 101.34653 W
* San Miguel:    29.21318 N, 101.50357 W
* My Truck:      29.39183N, 101.82707W
* Sto. Toribio:   29.42301 N, 101.93073 W
* Norias:          29.22861 N, 102.37397 W
* Carranza:      29.19737 N, 102.40696 W
* Morelos:        29.10227 N, 102.43273 W
* Aguachile:     29.24619N, 102.53531W
* 4 palmas:      29.28298N, 102.56898W
* Tinaja:          29.44928N, 102.80693W
* La Linda:       29.44815N, 102.81498W
* El Melon:       28.64833 N 102.26448 W
* El Tunel:       28.63855 N 102.33832 W

 Using DATUM WGS84

 Thank you very much, to all of you...God Speed :!:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: BigBendHiker on July 18, 2007, 06:13:51 AM
Great story and pictures, Homero!


BBH
Title: Re: GBU
Post by: SHANEA on July 18, 2007, 08:25:55 AM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
Quote from: "SHANEA"


Took me a second to figure out why.  Cool pic.  Reminds me of the Good - the Bad - and the Ugly....

That is one narrow bridge.


 To me it was more like The Crying Game.... :-s


Well, I suppose you wouldn't catch Eli Wallach, Clint Eastwood, and Lee Van Cleef walking down the bridge like that...

Most Outstanding Report Homero.  Most Outstanding...  One for the record books.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: dave2 on July 18, 2007, 08:48:42 AM
Thanks for posting this trip report.  Your report has taken me to a world I'll never get to see in person.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Hoodoo on July 18, 2007, 09:54:07 AM
Homero,
Wow! What a great window you have created for us to see some of the many wonders of Mexico. Muchas Gracias to you and your friends.
 :notworthy:  :cactuscheers:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Vince T on July 18, 2007, 10:48:09 AM
Homero-
Fantastic amigo...simply fantastic.

Vince
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: megalalo77 on July 19, 2007, 08:14:54 PM
:cool: Homero awesome enthusiasm your showing here.  I am very glad your are sharing these pictures with everyone needless to say our most recent adventure together with all the 4x4 gang.  This makes me feel proud.  TT soon.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: dos zetas on July 26, 2007, 09:56:40 AM
You know, this is the kind of trip that needs to be made into a lecture or book to show around. Wish you could come up to visit sleepy Marathon, tell about your fabulous trip at the library meeting here, maybe?
Yes there is a sandy good beach at La Linda on the US side, a good cool green place to sit and think. Also a cut in the back downstream from the bridge, where, according to the local kids, even a Peterbilt and trailer can illegaly come across the river when the water's low.
So many people in the USA would love to see your pictures and hear about your adventure.
Also people in Mexico DF would like to see it...it might change their impression of the border states...
I like it that you mention the history of the ranches and the mining towns, I would like to hear more of that.
Here in Marathon are the big bins by the railroad where the flourite from La Linda was loaded. I have been told that in the old days, a hitch of twelve mules took five days to big one of the ore wagons, fifteen tons, maybe, up here to the railroad. Three days to get back empty.
There were big pens with hundreds of mules and houses for the vaqueros and teamsters.
More history talk please!

Thank you very much for this amazing report.
I hope you know that in a small way, you have become an "ambassador".
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 27, 2007, 01:36:55 AM
Quote from: "dos zetas"
You know, this is the kind of trip that needs to be made into a lecture or book to show around. Wish you could come up to visit sleepy Marathon, tell about your fabulous trip at the library meeting here, maybe?
Yes there is a sandy good beach at La Linda on the US side, a good cool green place to sit and think. Also a cut in the back downstream from the bridge, where, according to the local kids, even a Peterbilt and trailer can illegaly come across the river when the water's low.
So many people in the USA would love to see your pictures and hear about your adventure.
Also people in Mexico DF would like to see it...it might change their impression of the border states...
I like it that you mention the history of the ranches and the mining towns, I would like to hear more of that.
Here in Marathon are the big bins by the railroad where the flourite from La Linda was loaded. I have been told that in the old days, a hitch of twelve mules took five days to big one of the ore wagons, fifteen tons, maybe, up here to the railroad. Three days to get back empty.
There were big pens with hundreds of mules and houses for the vaqueros and teamsters.
More history talk please!

Thank you very much for this amazing report.
I hope you know that in a small way, you have become an "ambassador".


 Hello Dos Zetas...and the rest of the bunch. Well i have been given the incredible opportunity to post the beautiful back country , we call LA SIERRA of Coahuila.  The most important matter here is that i strive to let people see that we are not that far away from each other, and in certain communities have  ties that are more closer to folks in the U.S. than in here, Mexico, such as Boquillas del Carmen, San Vicente and Ejido Muzquiz but to me, what matters the most is that i get this rare chance to record some exciting places the Sierras can offer, with the soul intention of sharing it with everybody here.

  There is much more to share and to get to know here, but it takes time to do this and i have the rest of my life to post more trips for you to enjoy. I hope i get to live a long life, for this but it is up to the man up there to decide how long i can do this.

 i would love to go to Marathon and visit with you and friends and exchange experiences and pictures. Marathon, is just like Muzquiz here and i like these sort of towns. They have alot of History and facts to learn.

 Anyhow, i look forward to taking up on your invitation and meet with folks up there.

  I never say this enough, but thanks David L. for letting me steal some of your cyberspace and  posting my pics.

 And i don't consider myself an ambassador..that is a heavy word to carry, but more like a foreign contributor to the Big Bend Chat.

 Homero
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: BB BOB on July 28, 2007, 09:38:07 AM
Homerboy, thanks for the wonderful report and pictures.  I really would like to see the 4 Palms Mine in person but that will probably never happen.  

Do you have the coordinates of El Melon and El Tunel.  I would like to look them up on Google Earth.  

Thanks once again and keep up the good work.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on July 28, 2007, 03:08:09 PM
Yes BBBob, i can post those GPS coordnates for you, let me ask for them and will put them up, right away.

 And NO, i disagree with you. That trip is certainly doable, again. Best if we go in the winter time, though.

 Maybe now, we can get more folks to sign up, to my next 4x4 trail?......Just, just double check your bearings on ALL your tires , please :roll:
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: presidio on July 28, 2007, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: "homerboy2u2"
The most important matter here is that i strive to let people see that we are not that far away from each other, and in certain communities have  ties that are more closer to folks in the U.S. than in here, Mexico, such as Boquillas del Carmen, San Vicente and Ejido Muzquiz .

And i don't consider myself an ambassador..that is a heavy word to carry, but more like a foreign contributor to the Big Bend Chat.


Like most situations affecting international issues, the problems are caused/promoted/fought over by governmental entities and politicians. You don't see much conflict when regular folks interact and have respect for each other.
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on August 01, 2007, 10:40:12 PM
Quote from: "BB BOB"
Do you have the coordinates of El Melon and El Tunel.  I would like to look them up on Google Earth.


 Here they are BBBob....

El Melon: 28.64833 N  102.26448 W

El Tunel: 28.63855 N 102.33832 W (This is where we ate)

  Well, glad to have helped...Saludos Everyone.

Homero
Title: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: BB BOB on August 04, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
Thanks a lot for the coordinates Homer.  I appreciate your efforts to get them.
Title: Wow what a trip
Post by: gpad53 on August 24, 2007, 11:06:32 PM
I want to go!

Tell me when next time.

retired miner.
Title: THANKS FOR THE REPORT
Post by: STARLITDARKNESS3 on August 25, 2007, 08:06:50 AM
Homero, muchas gracias for the report.  Never before have I enjoyed forums or chats until I joined BBC, (which was quite recent); but, I have since read some of the reports here and the chat forums and have found a home.  I am very glad you had a wonderful trip and thanks to your story, we did too.  

I have been on the US side of the La Linda bridge and wondered why it was closed.  I had never before seen the 'other side' of El Pico, I'm glad you posted those pics.  Maybe one day, I can see it in person.  

Many thanks to you for sharing and many thanks to everyone for being part of a group that I look forward to sharing stories with.
Title: Re: Wow what a trip
Post by: homerboy2u on August 25, 2007, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: "gpad53"
I want to go!
Tell me when next time.
retired miner.
...hahahaha. Retired folks, make the nicest companions.

Quote from: "STARLITDARKNESS3"
Homero, muchas gracias for the report.  Never before have I enjoyed forums or chats until I joined BBC, (which was quite recent); but, I have since read some of the reports here and the chat forums and have found a home.  I am very glad you had a wonderful trip and thanks to your story, we did too.  

I have been on the US side of the La Linda bridge and wondered why it was closed.  I had never before seen the 'other side' of El Pico, I'm glad you posted those pics.  Maybe one day, I can see it in person.  

Many thanks to you for sharing and many thanks to everyone for being part of a group that I look forward to sharing stories with.


 Next schedule trip: Late Octuber- Middle of November 2007. Sierra del Burro.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: kylecom on November 25, 2007, 12:31:49 PM
Great pictures!
3 of us made the trip from Acuna-Rancho Santa Maria-Colorado Canyon-Conejo-Boquillas.
Took us 2 days. Definitely take topo maps and extra gas.
The Boquillas residents were surprised to see 3 gringos roll into town in a Bronco.
I don't know if Andy Kurie is still at La Linda, but he knows all the mining history of quatro palmas and agua chili. He worked as a geologist for the mining company for years.
Clemente and his family may not be at cuatro palmas anymore. It's been several years ago.
Thanks alot for the pictures. It certainly is an interesting area.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: SHANEA on November 25, 2007, 12:59:57 PM

I don't know if Andy Kurie is still at La Linda,

Nope, Andy has moved on.  There is a caretaker there at Heath Canyon, but for all practical purposes it is boarded up.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on November 26, 2007, 01:45:10 PM
O.K.   folks...first great news of the day. i know , almost everybody here speaks and reads perfect spanish ,  so i am going to do the next big thing: post a story from todays newspaper::

Quote
Autoridades de M?xico y Estados Unidos, se reunir?n el martes 27 de noviembre en la ciudad de Alpine, Texas, para tratar el tema de la reapertura del cruce internacional del Mineral de La Linda, que tiene m?s de 12 a?os cerrado al paso de cualquier unidad.

El director de Fomento Tur?stico Municipal H?ctor Arocha G?mez, dijo que autoridades de los Estados Unidos han mostrado inter?s por entablar pl?ticas con sus hom?logos mexicanos y alcanzar acuerdos en beneficio de ambos lados de la frontera.

Dijo que 12 a?os atr?s se tom? la determinaci?n por las autoridades de ambos pa?ses de cerrar el paso, debido a la dificultad que se ten?a para mantener una buena vigilancia al paso de contrabando y la inseguridad que se viv?a en el sitio, pero hoy existen proyectos importantes para el impulso del ecoturismo.

Para esta reuni?n tambi?n fueron convocados los representantes de la Secretar?a de Turismo en Coahuila y la Secretar?a del Medio Ambiente Recursos Naturales del Estado, para que estos conozcan dichos proyectos que se tienen y apoyen los trabajos que se pretenden hacer.

Luego de la reuni?n, se programar? una visita el puente de La Linda, del que se conoce que su estado f?sico es favorable para su reapertura, “sabemos que s?lo fueron construidos dos muros de un metro de alto para evitar el paso de las unidades y s?lo se tendr?an que hacer unos estudios sobre la estructura”, detall?.

Explic? que es importante el hecho de que se considere este proyecto y que se enfoque principalmente al impulso del turismo de la regi?n, aprovechando los espacios y ?reas que se tienen en este sitio.

Inform? que se deber? de pedir el apoyo de las autoridades federales para la vigilancia del lugar, como es el caso del Ej?rcito Mexicano y Aduana.

 Basically what it reads....Mexican and American Authorities will get together on November 27th in Alpine,tx. to retake the issue of the Crossing in La Linda which has been closed for the past 12 years.

  The director of the Municipal Tourist Dept. Hector Arocha Gomez, mentioned that the American Authorities have expressed interest in picking up talks with the Mexican Authorities in finding the  benefits for both sides of the border.

  He said that 12 years ago the decision to close down the bridge was taken by both authorities , because it could not be guaranteed the safety of the place and the flow of contraband the was crossing both ways, but today there are plans for develop some ecotourism projects that will detonate the area.


 To this meeting members of the Coahuila tourism dept. and the States Environmental Dept. were invited so they can be involved in the area plans and support the efforts that are intended to develop.

 After the meeting , a trip to the La Linda bridge will be schedule which its condition is know as satisfactory to reopen, " We know that only two walls had been constructed and it is only a matter of the civil engineers see what else it needs to reopen it."

  He explained that it is important the fact that the project is considered and its main focus is the development of the tourism in the region, taking advantages of the spaces and areas of the place.

  He also informed that there will be a request to the Federal Authorities for  a continous vigilance of the area, such as the case of the Army and Mexican Customs.

 ON A PERSONAL NOTE :

  I look forward to the day when Cinta de Narvaez walks over to the states with her quilts, Victor Valdez gets a chance to sing on the bridge and we get to cross over back and forth with folks here and there.....looks like it is going to be pretty soon :eusa_dance:

   

   

 

   
   

 

Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on December 05, 2007, 11:45:18 PM
Homero, is this really going to happen!?  What class crossing will it be?  I am humbled to be the first to respond.  Sounds like it's a done deal as long as the engineers sign off on it.

Al
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: RichardM on December 06, 2007, 05:26:25 PM
Homero had replied earlier, but I removed his post after my PC popped up a virus warning when I tried to load his linked website.  I deleted the link to his pictures, but it you're really curious about the virus you can go to acuna4x4.com.mx/home/viewtopic.php?t=548

Quote from: homerboy2u2
Looks as though Al....here some PICTURES from the latest meeting in Alpine with US and Mexican Authorities. Still no date for next year, but loos as though they couls reopen it in 2008.

  There are plans , when they re open it to take down friends from other 4x4 clubs in other cities to vist the mines and go to the re opening ceremony , it could be a very interesting tour....who wants to tag along?.

  Scroll down to the very end to see them.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on December 06, 2007, 06:11:18 PM
O.K...folks. Looks as though they have swept the attic ( no more trojans) by now.....here are the promised PICTURES (http://ae4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=548&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) of the town and bridge meeting.. They are on the very bottom of the page.

 Regards
Title: FINALLY.....Some pictures from inside the church at La Linda...in color.
Post by: homerboy2u on April 08, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Shane, I just know you will be the first one interested in seeing these pictures from inside the CHURCH at La Linda...it looks very nice from any standpoint.

  The 4x4 clubs from Piedras Negras,Acu?a and Saltillo went to La Linda  this past April 4th 2008. I did not go with them, since i was aiming for the S.A. Bender, I could not get away from work and i had some family commitments to attend as well. My Older Daughter's First Comunion.  The groups did some hiking as well, visited some canyons and got to see some nice places and Big Tinajas.

 Enjoy Rafael Zacarias pictures:

 (http://thumb7.webshots.net/t/63/663/0/71/44/2798071440030541547OAuEzR_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563020134ISTWpn)
Had to double check for typos...i wrote it too fast.Sorry.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: wildman on April 08, 2008, 08:07:37 PM
Thanks for sharing.  I have really enjoyed your photo-story documenting some incredible places.
Title: Re: FINALLY.....Some pictures from inside the church at La Linda...in color.
Post by: SHANEA on April 08, 2008, 08:59:27 PM
Shane, I just know you will be the first one interested in seeing those pictures from inside the CHURCH at La Linda...it looks very nice from standpoint.

Homero - way to go!  Did they serve any eggs on the trip?

What is that in the back ground? (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2613429330030541547IzqmvU?vhost=good-times&vhost=good-times)

Same goes for this... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2432914000030541547IKsndV)

and this (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2561237300030541547NPVrKI)

Smart man... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2690186030030541547nHeWKL)

and this... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2082755910030541547dXlhHT)

ah, the other side of the La Linda bridge... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2085502830030541547OcEDxx)

so what does this say... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2900131390030541547ePZtEH)

so that is the inside of the LaLinda church... - figured it would be bigger than that... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2620091870030541547IzkFuy)

ah that is why it looks bigger... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2608003130030541547XzObRh)

neat formation it's a road... (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2153043870030541547BoYiVu)

Bravo - great pics Homero.  Thanks for sharing... 
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: BigBendHiker on April 08, 2008, 09:08:14 PM
Thanks, Homero!

BBH
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on April 08, 2008, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: Wildman wrote:
Thanks for sharing.  I have really enjoyed your photo-story documenting some incredible places.

 Hey, any time brother...hope some day you can hook up with us to a REAL adventure trail...trust me , they are self sustained. You learn alot about yourself out there.

 Shane those houses, i have not asked yet but i was curious myself must have been the foreman's housing project. I have only seen this house formation once before at where the Myers family inmense ranch operations used to be...in Sierra del Burro. But like you , i am curious myself, i will ask and will post an answer for all of you.

  Wonderful thing about it: The plans to go forward and reopen the bridge are ,apparently, going full swing. This 4x4 trip...jeep trip was done for the purpose to meet the other fellas from the other city clubs and invite them again, when the time comes to do the ceremony and all the formalities for the reopening of the bridge.

  I have always said to them: Give me an exact date...a formal date and i will promote it here like it was a second coming. I am dead sure more than one would be interested in participating on this magnanimus event...that i am sure of. Plus, what better place to shake hands with the people from other clubs which also see and read this webpage from the links i post elsewhere. Just imagine all the media coverage this would get.

  Lets be patient and wait for some answers.



Homero
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on April 08, 2008, 10:25:39 PM
(http://image63.webshots.com/663/1/31/39/2900131390030541547ePZtEH_ph.jpg)

http://image63.webshots.com/663/1/31/39/2900131390030541547ePZtEH_ph.jpg

....ok: What am i doing wrong here?, i can not link the image with the options on the menu bar. Help and tell me what did i do wrong.RicardoM
ModNote:  I'm guessing the webshots site doesn't allow hotlinking pictures.


 Basically it reads.....

Mr. Gorbachov tear down this wall!!!...ok, not exactly.

 Mr. State Governor Humberto Moreira Valdez;

  We support the reopening of the bridge at La Linda for ecotourism purposes in this beautiful region: Acu?a,Piedras Negras,Sabinas, Muzquiz, Ocampo and Boquillas del Carmen,Coahuila.

                                                                                                 We welcome the tourism to Coahuila.

 Belive me Fred, and everybody who read this: I have never ever seen such mines as 4 Palmas and Aguachile, plus the temperatures there are incredibly cool as compared when you come back up. The last tiem I was there, i went on July, those mines were very cold to be in there, and the folks there say in winter are cozy to be inside...plus they have water sources inside.

  It would make for an awsome Panorama shot inside. Of course my favorite place to be , would have to be in Maderas del Carmen, along the bisons, pastures,pine forest and streams they have there, and to look down to see the desert...man, what a contrast to enjoy.

 Anyhow, i caught myself day dreaming..ha !
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Al on April 08, 2008, 11:02:38 PM
Thanks Homero for providing a message of hope where there was none.

Al
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: SHANEA on April 09, 2008, 09:31:59 AM

 Basically it reads.....

Mr. Gorbachov tear down this wall!!!...ok, not exactly.

Actually, it should read Michael Chertoff, Department of Homeland Security, while you are busy building fences elsewhere and wielding your waiver authority, please put your waiver authority to good use and waiver away the barriers at the Hallie Stillwell Memorial Bridge (AKA La Linda Bridge) and open up free unfettered access into the region.    Say,  :eusa_think:, before you do that, also waive your magic authority waiver and allow free access to the Big Bend communities of Boquillias, Santa Elena, Lajitas, etc.  Thanks, ShaneA

Of course, what would really open up the bridge would be if someone would reopen the open Flourspar operation and needed it to haul the booty into the US - while providing much needed jobs for the region...
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on April 10, 2008, 11:48:55 AM
Hello everybody, I have news regarding the two story houses. I was right, those cabins are part of Now closed, Hacienda San Miguel , that used to belong to John Paul Myers and family..that is another story-trip I want to do for so long. Thing is time, is not in my side.

 Those houses are long way from La Linda, actually they are located about 30-40 km's from Acu?a to be exact, but the ranch used to be in excess of 250,000 hectares.
Title: The Gilberto Sanchez Pictures
Post by: homerboy2u on April 11, 2008, 12:57:32 AM
Just check out his pictures folks....this guy can shoot good pics as well. Check out the trail, taking off from La Linda...dang , that church is pweeny......what a crowd folks. Many good pictures to enjoy.


(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/52/652/3/45/11/2829345110101731985DhlHWj_th.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2829345110101731985DhlHWj)

Saludos
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: Undertaker on April 11, 2008, 01:54:43 PM
Excellent series of photos Homero, enjoyed them very much. Was hoping to meet you at the SA Bender, but wound up not being able to make the bender, maybe some other time.  Will try you Pico.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: homerboy2u on April 17, 2008, 09:15:18 AM
Even more pictures of La Linda...

http://rides.webshots.com/album/563014076vidIhO?vhost=rides

 Check out the slide show...

http://rides.webshots.com/slideshow/563014076vidIhO;jsessionid=abcXhAQpaf-Bg6Ad4QCLr

  I am pretty sure, now. No one in any page has so much detailed information of La linda and the mines, than Big Bend Chat....so, should anyone wants to get some complete information o n that area, we should redirect them here.

Homero Jimenez
Title: Hell Raiser Video
Post by: homerboy2u on April 30, 2008, 07:48:37 PM
I dare you to watch this video at   4 Palmas  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-aXtP4C3I8)...hahahahaha. My buddies were bitting their seats, and not necessarily with their mouths!!... :icon_lol:

 This is also a cool one:   Kayaking Santa Elena  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqVYjCEDoA)

Saludos...see you next time, we head out somewhere's.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: iwhite96 on November 24, 2016, 09:54:21 PM

 Basically it reads.....

Mr. Gorbachov tear down this wall!!!...ok, not exactly.

Actually, it should read Michael Chertoff, Department of Homeland Security, while you are busy building fences elsewhere and wielding your waiver authority, please put your waiver authority to good use and waiver away the barriers at the Hallie Stillwell Memorial Bridge (AKA La Linda Bridge) and open up free unfettered access into the region.    Say,  :eusa_think:, before you do that, also waive your magic authority waiver and allow free access to the Big Bend communities of Boquillias, Santa Elena, Lajitas, etc.  Thanks, ShaneA

Of course, what would really open up the bridge would be if someone would reopen the open Flourspar operation and needed it to haul the booty into the US - while providing much needed jobs for the region...

The biggest problem with your idea is Mexico itself. If you want to drive past a border town (actually it's more like 20 miles) into Mexico you have to have a FMM (tourist visa) and a TIP (car permit) which will cost you $70 and that doesn't include the mandatory Mexican Insurance you have to buy on top of that. That would require Mexico building a station to issue these services and they would never do that  for such a remote area.

Basically my point is opening La Linda is pointless since it would be a dead end into Mexico.

If Mexico ever wants a lot of Americans to drive across the border then they seriously need to do away with the car permits. I have no problem with the tourist visas and the insurance, but the car permits are just a revenue generator imho.
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BTW you can actually drive to Santa Elena and Lajitas, as well as Manuel Benavides without any permits. I drove to Manuel Benavides  in February and had no problems.
Title: Re: La Linda Trip: Aguachile Mine,4 Palms Mine & The Tunnel
Post by: cchristo on November 06, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/Khi35CeHrN1S65JH7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RVnaqjoe6v2iaXnC8
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