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1st time Visitors from NL

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Offline steelfrog

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2013, 09:00:49 AM »
The water level has been pretty high lately; call Far Flung if that's what you want to do and inquire abuot the water levels.

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2013, 09:05:06 AM »
Any thoughts on hiking vs. taking a canoe trip?
With only 2 full days in the park, I'd stick to hiking. The canoe trip would be a great experience, but you'll see a lot more of the park with day hikes. Saving the canoe trip for some other time will add incentive to come back. ;)

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2013, 12:56:30 PM »
Thanks for the replies! But since the government shutdown BBNP is closed.....I called BBNP today (October 1). It must be terrible for the people who work there.

We're not sure what to do now (nobody is I guess). We're thinking to cancel our trip to BB...any suggestions are more than welcome.

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2013, 01:13:22 PM »
Thanks for the replies! But since the government shutdown BBNP is closed.....I called BBNP today (October 1). It must be terrible for the people who work there.

We're not sure what to do now (nobody is I guess). We're thinking to cancel our trip to BB...any suggestions are more than welcome.
Hopefully this mess will be resolved before you get here. In the meantime, you might consider looking into Big Bend Ranch State Park, which is still open.

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2013, 03:14:03 PM »
Thanks again Richard! I really appreciate all the advice you're giving! I'm already reading and looking to go to BBRSP instead. Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read the State Park can be seen in 1 full day, and we have 2 full days planned in this area of TX.

Since we're coming all the way from Houston, we have to figure out a plan B and wonder if it's worth the big drive. Right now I don't have a clue about hiking trails in the BBRSP area....   :-\

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2013, 03:58:14 PM »
Keep digging.  BBRSP can not be seen in one day unless you plan to stay in your car.  Even if you only drive 170, visit Ft. Leaton and then drive into the Sauceda ranger station, it'll take 1/2 day with only minimal sightseeing stops.  It's over 300,000 acres (over 1250 square kilometers) mostly accessible only by foot, mountain bike, horse or high clearance vehicle.  Given you're coming from out of the country, I assume you're stuck with foot travel.
 
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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2013, 09:28:10 PM »
Good idea to make an alternate plan, but it is much too early to give up on visiting Big Bend National Park.  Instead look for opportunity.  Tomorrow I would try to make a hotel reservation for the Lodge in the Park.  They will be starting to get cancellations.  Just make sure you understand the cancellation policy in case you later decide to cancel your reservation.
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Offline Maurits

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2013, 11:19:26 AM »
Keep digging.
Do your research, I think you'll find there is plenty to do.

I wish I'd have more time to make a solid Plan B, but I simply don't have that luxury. That's why I'm relying on all the valuable info that's already been given to me me on this fantastic site!

Since we don't camp I was wondering if anybody could give us some advice about day hikes while staying in Terlingua for the BB State Park area.

Good idea to make an alternate plan, but it is much too early to give up on visiting Big Bend National Park.

 :crossedfingers: :crossedfingers: I hope so!

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2013, 11:36:34 AM »
Closed Canyon is the only hike i have done in the State Park.

You can also spend a few minutes to explore the "DOM" rock which was made famous by the movie Fandango. Its like super easy to get to , Might take you a hole 2 minutes to get to it from your car.


 
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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2013, 11:38:08 AM »
Closed Canyon is a nice , fairly short but interesting hike. The Trailhead is on 170. Fort Leaton , down the road toward Presidio, has an interesting history that the rangers like to talk about - ask about Ben Leaton. Plus it gives you an excuse to drive the riverroad - nice, scenic drive. Theres Pinto Canyon and Casa Piedra roads when you're tired of hiking - they define  "the middle of nowhere".

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2013, 01:27:11 PM »
I'd recommend the Ojito Adentro and Cinco Tinajas trails, both of which are in the interior of the park on the main road to Sauceda. The main road is gravel and often bumpy, but if you're renting a 4x4 you shouldn't have any problems. When you check in at Fort Leaton, they will be happy to make additional suggestions.

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2013, 01:54:04 PM »
I suppose if our trip draws near and BiBe's closed Sandi and I could do the Rancherias Loop.

Ah Big Bend, we will soon return to reacquaint ourselves in our ritual of blood, exhaustion and dehydration. How can we resist the temptation to strip ourselves of the maladies of civilization?

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2013, 02:58:59 PM »
Hike to the Fresno Canyon overlook; Guale mesa is cool

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2013, 03:52:55 PM »
this has happened in the past, the gov. closes for a couple of days. outrage ensues, media  field day, the world looks at America and scratches it's head. odds are good that the gov. will reopen within a couple of days to a week. you should make a plan to visit to see the state park for insurance . in addition to closed canyon, rancherias canyon is also off 170, as is rancherias loop. you have to stop at the ranger station to get a permit, it's also right off 170, ask the rangers which hike might be best for you. i've always found the rangers in both parks very helpful.

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Re: 1st time Visitors from NL
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2013, 06:44:26 PM »
The state park has accommodations, either bunk beds in the ranch "barracks" or a private in the ranch house at the Sauceda park headquarters but I'm sure you have already inquired about them. The meals are alright. Its a good central location if you are not camping plus they rent out mountain bikes. If you are from Netherlands then you know all about bicycles. There are many trails and old ranch roads you can bicycle on and Fresno canyon is not to be missed. I would stick to the central area of the park if you only have 2 days, Any 4wd you can rent is probably not robust enough to travel many of the ranch roads, ask the park rangers what they think the vehicle can handle. You can also rent horses at Sauceda with one of the ranch hands as  guide.  (the price is somewhat high but heck, there isn't a better way to be a "Texan" for a day than on horseback in remote country. Other ideas for hikes: get a real early start for a hike up to the summit of "La Mota", you should be back down by noon. Hike to the desert spring at Ojito Adentro but hike out of the canyon above the spring and explore, see hou high you can get on Agua Adentro Mountain. Most of the best hiking in BBRSP is not on trails but crosscountry with a map in your hand, another gem are hiking the buttes of Panther mountain southwest of Sauceda. See if you can find your way cross country from Cinco Tinajas to Baņos de Leyva. Hikes from Puerta Chilicote down to Fresno canyon or arroyo Mexicano. This is all in the central area of the park, There are even better hikes in the periphery that you probably don't have time for.

 


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