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Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)

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Offline PREACHER

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Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« on: December 23, 2015, 11:01:32 PM »
I have a group of 5 heading out early January, Monday through Friday. Three of us are experienced backpackers, 1 is newer, and one is very new, but young healthy and willing.

I believe the Itinerary is reasonable, but would like to run it by everyone.

Monday - Day 1

Drive there with ample time given to arrive in the area at 11am.
Eat lunch somewhere. (suggestions please)
Spend the next 3ish hours caching water at both Juniper and Homer Wilson, obtaining a permit, and parking at the Basin to begin our hike.
Hike 3.4 miles along the Laguna Meadow trail.
Camp at LM1 or other available site near there.

Tuesday - Day 2
Hike across the Colima trail and down Juniper Canyon trail.
Pick up water at the Juniper Canyon cache.
Hike another mile and a half onto the Dodsen before making camp.
Total mileage 9.1

Wednesday - Day 3

Hike the Dodsen.
Pick up water at the Homer Wilson cache.
Hike another mile or so up Blue Creek before making camp.
Total mileage 10.5

Thursday - Day 4
Finish Blue creek, turning east on the Colima, and then back south onto the South Rim Trail.
Spend the day hiking and enjoying the the Rim.
Camp at NE1 or a nearby site on the northeast Rim.
Total mileage 8.6

Friday - Day 5
Hike up through Pinnacles to complete the trip by lunchtime.
If we somehow make amazing time, we will consider Emory peak, but we would like to be driving out earlyish Friday.
check out and go get lunch on the drive back. (suggestions are welcome)
Total mileage (excluding Emory) 5.5




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Re: Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2015, 06:34:48 AM »
Looks great, I like that you will be able to walk all the trails in the Chisos.  If you can't get LM1 then try for LW2or 3, great views too.  Similarly NE1 may not be the most interesting but it does put you closer to the Basin for the last day and it has views of Juniper canyon close by.  If it doesn't work then NE4 and SE3 and 4 are good alternatives and only a bit farther away.

The only other consideration is to watch the weather.  You could have some snow in Jan. which might change your Chisos plans especially the last night.  Easy enough to just head to the Basin the 4th day if the weather is looking bad.

If you do Emory, you can leave your packs in the bear boxes at the bottom.

As to lunch on the way in you are limited to something in Marathon (probably too early) or the Lodge in the Basin.

You will have a great trip.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
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Re: Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2015, 09:47:59 AM »
I really think you will enjoy the trip with your plan.  Very doable and at a nice pace in my opinion.  Here are some things to consider.  Your group is 5 people, and the overseers are very strict on occupancy rates in the Chisos campsites.  Looking here http://75.41.147.131/cgi-bin/permits/backcountry.exe  you can look at the campsite and see the max. number of people allowed AND tents. For example, Laguna Meadow 1 allows 6 people and 2 tents.  LM2 allows 5 tents.  Most all the sites are 1 or 2 tents, but you can make plans now for the other sites that allow more tents if that is what you need.

Once you pick up your water at Juniper, about 30 minutes down, there is a great campsite that can handle 5+ tents with a killer view.  One of our favorites.
 http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=29.21519,-103.24028&z=15&t=T&marker0=29.21520%2C-103.24029%2C4.0%20km%20SxSE%20of%20Big%20Bend%20National%20Park%20TX

If you can filter water, you will save yourself a bunch of weight by filtering water out of Boot Creek on your way to your last camp site in the Chisos.  You won't have to carry a bunch up Blue Creek hill.  You would have also verified IF there is water in the creek when you walked by the Juniper trail turnoff on your second day.

It takes us from NE4 campsite about 4 leisurely hours to get back down to the parking lot in the Basin.  So your noon time  frame on the walk out is easily done.

I strongly advise you to buy a real topo map when you get your permit.  There is a real nice one that has the OML on it in 40 foot scale.
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Re: Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2015, 10:28:53 AM »
 
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Once you pick up your water at Juniper, about 30 minutes down, there is a great campsite that can handle 5+ tents with a killer view.  One of our favorites.
 http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=29.21519,-103.24028&z=15&t=T&marker0=29.21520%2C-103.24029%2C4.0%20km%20SxSE%20of%20Big%20Bend%20National%20Park%20TX

 

Hombre, is there also a site heading up the Juniper trail a short way from the Dodson intersection?  I seem to recall you (or Cookie) mentioning such a site but maybe I was confusing that with this one.

 
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Re: Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 11:07:45 AM »
These are the 2 we use most of the time.  The one closest to the parking lot is flat and you sleep right under the Ocotillo.  It can handle 4 tents easily.  It has a ridge to the west of you and will stop some of the wind coming from the west.  The site above that one closer to the mountains is flat, but we usually have to clear off the sites because the grass grows back more often.  It must of been used as a camp at one time because we have found broken porcelain pieces around the area.

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=29.23320,-103.24943&z=15&t=T&marker0=29.23856%2C-103.25333%2C1.3%20km%20SxSW%20of%20Big%20Bend%20National%20Park%20TX&marker1=29.22919%2C-103.24662%2C2.3%20km%20S%20of%20Big%20Bend%20National%20Park%20TX

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Re: Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 02:44:26 PM »
As you descend Juniper Canyon trail, past Juniper Springs, just after the trail flattens out, there are few sites nestled among thick brush along the right side of the trail (the left side if you are ascending).  This is a good ways up past the Dodson intersection/parking area.  The site I have used there accommodates two tents max, but is comfortable for two tents.  It is high enough up Juniper Canyon that you feel surrounded by high canyon walls. 
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Approve my Itinerary! (Jan. OML trip)
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2015, 07:24:28 AM »
If memory serves there are very few campsites on the Blue Creek trail.  Especially for a larger group.  Some others on the board may have good locations.   I would not pass any up that you see.

 


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