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Offline 01ACRViper

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« on: May 02, 2006, 01:23:09 AM »
got bored at work this afternoon and started thinking of my next outing  :lol:

i thought of a couple of options, depending on when i can go.  these are all 3 day trips, not counting leaving 5-6pm the day before the first day. 2 full days, 1 half day, drive home that night.

option the first:

leave austin @5:30. get to PJ around 1. drive somewhere and crash(grapevine road, glenn springs road). get up @ 7, register a laguna meadows BC site, drive to the basin, and hike to where i'll be camping for the night. set up camp, and head for Ward Mtn. i want to try and find the old trail that lead to the summit, but if that is taking too long, i'll just bushwack as best i can. descend from the summit into upper cattail canyon, explore a while, then head back to camp. grab tripod, something to eat, and head for the south rim, my first visit :lol: :oops: take some sunset pictures, then back to camp. the next day, hike out very early (5ish), drop off everything but my daypack in the jeep, head up pulliam. this shouldn't take more than 5 hours(hopefully), so i'm planning on having enough time to scramble up Carter Peak and make my first trip down to the window. if pulliam takes longer than expected, i'll do carter/the window the last day. if i get it done the second day, my last half-day is a toss up :( i want to scout cerro castellon, maybe climb it. croton peak near the paint gap hills looked fun, and i might try and bag toll mtn, completing all the major peaks of the chisos :lol:

option the second:

leave austin @5:30, get to PJ @1, drive as far down the RMSD and river road west as i can muster. get up and drive the rest of the way to the dominguez spring TH. hike up with a full pack, find a spot for camp, then take off for backbone ridge. try my hardest to get that done, as well as dominguez mtn, in a single day. if not, 2 days. Punta de la Sierra would also be nice, though it looked like quite a scramble/wack from on top of Elephant Tusk. the last day, either hike to the saddle between the mule ears, climb cerro castolon, trap mtn, or burro mesa.

option the third:

Mesa de Anguilla - 2 days out there, and 1 half day adventure before i leave

fourthly:

something in BBRSP, maybe Santana Mesa, Oso Peak, Rancherias Springs, or another old mine :lol:

i was looking at august for this, but only options 1 & 4 would really work, and 4 would be pushing it. if not august, i'll be back in october, maybe around thanksgiving  :cry: thats so far away :(

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006, 07:24:34 AM »
Why am I thinking.......you'll never make it to August!!! :lol:
If you're already thinking and planning.....I know that feeling 8)

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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2006, 07:35:50 AM »
Don't kill yourself.  Do some poking and get some unique pics.  Nothing wrong with the endurance objective either IMO.  Whatever one likes to do 8)
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Re: pre-trip report
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2006, 08:27:52 AM »
Quote from: "01ACRViper"
got bored at work this afternoon and started thinking of my next outing  :lol:


When?  Don't you need a Summer Job - why not work there?

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006, 08:45:04 AM »
My plans last time at Big Bend were to do Dominguez Mountain but I changed my plans when the rangers said they have had problems with breakins at those remote trailheads near the Mexican border.  

Let me know when you go on some of these, I might like to tag along.  There is a cool looking unnamed peak that I wouldn't mind doing that you can see from the Mule Ears saddle.

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2006, 09:02:11 AM »
that first plan is a bold option....but it's my favorite plan and the one I would recommend for an August excursion..... :)

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Re: pre-trip report
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2006, 09:20:10 AM »
Quote from: "01ACRViper"
got bored at work this afternoon and started thinking of my next outing


How do you get bored working at REI - or is it Whole Earth?

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2006, 12:07:03 PM »
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My plans last time at Big Bend were to do Dominguez Mountain but I changed my plans when the rangers said they have had problems with breakins at those remote trailheads near the Mexican border.  

Let me know when you go on some of these, I might like to tag along.  There is a cool looking unnamed peak that I wouldn't mind doing that you can see from the Mule Ears saddle.


the dominguez TH is almost 7 miles from the river at the closest point, i'd most likely assure myself with that, and just do it :hs: there's not much of value in my jeep, so hopeflly that would deter them. and yeah i'll let you know when i decide i'm going, hopefully well ahead enough that you can come along

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Re: pre-trip report
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2006, 12:07:32 PM »
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Quote from: "01ACRViper"
got bored at work this afternoon and started thinking of my next outing


How do you get bored working at REI - or is it Whole Earth?


i work at a local hardware store, Breed & co. :oops:

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Re: pre-trip report
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2006, 12:14:01 PM »
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i work at a local hardware store, Breed & co. :oops:


Hey, I congratulate you on working your way through college, that can be tough!  Hardware is cool.  I can go into a hardware store and poke around for hours just looking at all the neat stuff.  We had a hardware store in Nac that was staffed with nothing but good looking girls and they knew their "hardware".  So to speak.

So, this must be close to finals.  Deadweek @ SFA.  Boy, do I really miss all of the stress, sleepless nights, cramming, etc. for finals.  BUT, it sure felt good when it was all over with.  One way or the other with - either A or F - it was over with.  Unlike the real world where projects just drag on and on - no one ever says, oops, deadline/finals are here - didn't finish, oh well, maybe next semester.  GOOD LUCK!

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2006, 08:53:43 AM »
Quote from: "01ACRViper"
Quote from: "attm"
My plans last time at Big Bend were to do Dominguez Mountain but I changed my plans when the rangers said they have had problems with breakins at those remote trailheads near the Mexican border.  

Let me know when you go on some of these, I might like to tag along.  There is a cool looking unnamed peak that I wouldn't mind doing that you can see from the Mule Ears saddle.


the dominguez TH is almost 7 miles from the river at the closest point, i'd most likely assure myself with that, and just do it :hs: there's not much of value in my jeep, so hopeflly that would deter them. and yeah i'll let you know when i decide i'm going, hopefully well ahead enough that you can come along


The rangers specifically mentioned this trailhead, but I know what you mean about your vehicle, mine is the same too.  :-)  Perhaps setting up a camp before the climb and stashing most of our stuff in the tent would be a good thing.  Have I sent you a pic of that unnamed peak yet that looks pretty cool?  You probably got a great view of it from Goat Mountain.

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2006, 01:00:21 PM »
Quote from: "attm"
Quote from: "01ACRViper"
Quote from: "attm"
My plans last time at Big Bend were to do Dominguez Mountain but I changed my plans when the rangers said they have had problems with breakins at those remote trailheads near the Mexican border.  

Let me know when you go on some of these, I might like to tag along.  There is a cool looking unnamed peak that I wouldn't mind doing that you can see from the Mule Ears saddle.


the dominguez TH is almost 7 miles from the river at the closest point, i'd most likely assure myself with that, and just do it :hs: there's not much of value in my jeep, so hopeflly that would deter them. and yeah i'll let you know when i decide i'm going, hopefully well ahead enough that you can come along


The rangers specifically mentioned this trailhead, but I know what you mean about your vehicle, mine is the same too.  :-)  Perhaps setting up a camp before the climb and stashing most of our stuff in the tent would be a good thing.  Have I sent you a pic of that unnamed peak yet that looks pretty cool?  You probably got a great view of it from Goat Mountain.


yeah, i looked at your pictures, and it looks even better than it did from goat mtn. it looks to be in teh area of tortuga mountain, and the best way to get there is on the Dodson. i've never hiked it, so i don't know if you can see it from there. as for the dominguez hike, i wanted to try and reserve that zone for camping, carry in all my gear, and set up camp. that would leave things like my cds in teh car, which are easy enough to hide, and not much else.

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2006, 04:14:34 PM »
You might consider one of my favorite walks.  Leave the truck at Elephant Tusk campsite.  Full pack past the Tusk ,cross country down Backbone ridge valley, up the pass to Dom. mountain that drops you about 3/4 of a mile from the ruins and the spring.  Great views of Jacks pass and the Punta.  Back down the Dom. trail until Mt. 3800 (at work and don't have my maps) then southsoutheast back to the truck. I wouldn't try it in the summer, especially this summer unless we get some great rains to get the springs moving.  It is a great mid-winter walk.  It could also include a summit of the Tusk if you had enough time.  
By the way, do you have any pics of your summit of the Tusk and is there a summit book on top.  Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2006, 06:55:07 PM »
I was at Dominquez Springs in early April this year and hiked up Fisk Canyon all the way to within 2 miles of Smokey Creek Trail (to the top of the dry pass overlooking Smokey Creek Trail).   There was water flowing from Dominquez Springs and from a spring where you branch off of Fisk Canyon to go around Dominquez Mtn to E. Tusk.   The rangers warned me about break-in's at the trailhead as there had been one in Jan-Feb of this year where $1200 worth of gear was stolen.  I didn't have any trouble and break-in's are a rare event but they do occur even miles from the river.  But this will be the least of your worries.  The trail to Dominquez enters a dry wash after ~4 miles and finding the trail on the reverse trip is tricky as it is not well marked and you can easily walk right past it so be careful to memorize your route and/or flag it.  If you do miss it (like I did in April) you can keep walking South and you will eventually hit the River road in about the same distance.  Your plans sound a little too aggressive as it is likely to be very hot and take much longer than you think to do these things.  A basecamp at Dominquez is a good idea and then dayhike from there.  I don't think you can hike in, make a basecamp, and get up on Dominquez Mtn in a single day.  Its a long drive in, a long hike into Dom. Springs, and you probably won't start day-hiking until 2-3 in the afternoon.  That leaves you 3-4 hours of hike time assuming you want to make it back to camp ~hour or more before dark to have a liesurely dinner and enjoy the cool shade near the old damsite.  Fisk Canyon is a great dayhike and you can always cut East towards Elephant Tusk at the springs.   I would stay away from the lower desert in front of the Mtn Front and stay away from the dry peaks in the summer - especially this summer.   I can give you more details about the hike from Dom. to Smokey Creek if you want.

A high Chisos hike might be better this year - its so dry out there its dangerous for solo hikers.   Why not make a basecamp at LW1 and go down Upper Cattail Canyon to the big pour-off.  I posted some recent photo's of this in my photo album on MSN Groups Big Bend Photos site.   The Dam is dry but there is water in several big Tinajas near and downdip from the old dam.  You could do the entire hike in 1 full day and then have a relaxing night under the tree's at LW1 looking at Emery Peak with a cold beer in your hand.  Sounds a lot better than the near-death experience you are planning... TWWG

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2006, 07:19:12 PM »
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You might consider one of my favorite walks.  Leave the truck at Elephant Tusk campsite.  Full pack past the Tusk ,cross country down Backbone ridge valley, up the pass to Dom. mountain that drops you about 3/4 of a mile from the ruins and the spring.  Great views of Jacks pass and the Punta.  Back down the Dom. trail until Mt. 3800 (at work and don't have my maps) then southsoutheast back to the truck. I wouldn't try it in the summer, especially this summer unless we get some great rains to get the springs moving.  It is a great mid-winter walk.  It could also include a summit of the Tusk if you had enough time.  
By the way, do you have any pics of your summit of the Tusk and is there a summit book on top.  Thanks


there is a log, yes, and a pen :lol:

you'll be the 4th group on the list if you sign it :oops:

my pictures of that hike are at http://www.grbphotography.net/folders/bbnov

i would do that hike if i had more time, right now i'm just trying to bag as many of the southern peaks as i can in a limited amount of time  :(

 


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