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Terlingua vandalism

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Offline iCe

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Terlingua vandalism
« on: February 20, 2017, 05:03:55 PM »

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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 05:55:11 PM »
I hate stupid.

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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 06:32:21 PM »
My guess is that they were under 30 and from "the city". Stupid assholes. And we wonder why the NPS shuts down access to its treasures...
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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 06:38:08 PM »
My guess is that they were under 30 and from "the city". Stupid assholes. And we wonder why the NPS shuts down access to its treasures...

From the city?  I'm not sure what you mean, but hope it's not discriminatory.  Hopefully the vandals will be caught and dealt with.


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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 06:47:32 PM »
It's hard to know who did it.


Would you have thought scout leaders would toppled ancient formations in Goblin Valley State Park?





The asshats were leaving the park as we arrived. They and the troop were in the gift shop. They (leaders not kids) were loud, obnoxious, and rude. I was glad they were leaving

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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2017, 09:39:22 PM »

From the city?  I'm not sure what you mean, but hope it's not discriminatory.  Hopefully the vandals will be caught and dealt with.

Discriminatory how? I doubt the ruins were toppled by local hoodlums on a peyote bender or a random cattle stampede. No, it was probably people with little respect for culture and ignorant of the significance of historical and primitive artifacts. You know.....ctiy people.
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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 10:24:57 AM »

From the city?  I'm not sure what you mean, but hope it's not discriminatory. 
Discriminatory how?.......You know.....ctiy people.

Because of variations in sensitivity about racial issues, various euphemisms have developed since the 80s, where suburban = white, and urban = African-American.
Since you put quotes around "the city" Tom may have thought you could possibly mean " The City = Urban = African American".  The euphemisms may have originally developed
to avoid offending people during honest racial relations discussions, but there is another side of that coin. Where the euphemisms are used for racist discussions where upon the
other racists can knowingly understand (wink wink nudge nudge) and yet racism can still be officially denied because of the use of euphenisms.
 I'm sure that was not the case here, but I agree it was probably done by ....well to be honest it could have been done by locals...not all feel the same about things just because they live in the same area.
  If it is designated as a historical site, and if you are the owner and want to build something new there or sell to someone who does, do you have to "Un-historic" it first?
 I guess that thought is a little far out there, it's likely more to do with excessive alcohol consumption than either peyote or future financial planning.

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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 10:30:46 AM »
It just occurred to me that if I lived out on Terligua Ranch somewhere and it took me about 30 minutes to reach pavement, that I might just think that those that lived in Study Butte, were "city people".  :icon_lol:
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 10:51:18 AM »
I grew up in rural North-Central Texas and even-more-rural Southwest Oklahoma. Farm boy. Cotton picker. Pig farmer. And I thought city people were kinda dumb. Now I live in East Dallas. I can walk to the library, the organic grocery, the farmers' market, a bus route, light rail, or even call Uber for a ride if I want one.

Oh. My. God. I've become city people.
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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2017, 10:55:10 AM »
That said, both iCe and Rocketman make a good point: with all the yahoos out there (wherever they may be from), NPS and other stewards are saddled with an almost impossible job of managing vulnerable public lands.
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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2017, 11:43:27 AM »
I assure you all that there was no discriminatory intent or derogatory racial euphemism implied. I apologize if it was interpreted as such, but my mind just doesn't work that way. Perhaps I should have said "City Slickers", as in the movie. Yes, it is possible that the vandalism was perpetrated by locals, however I think that is unlikely. As a part-time local myself (see Marty's post), none of the local people I know would ever willingly destroy another's private property. With that said, I suppose someone out there could be against Bill Ivey's desire to continue development of the downtown area, and maybe, just maybe take the risk of trespassing and vandalism charges to make their dissatisfaction known. But again, it was probably just ignorant drunk city folk who don't give a crap about preserving rural artifacts.
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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2017, 01:39:47 PM »
It's almost a certainty that alcohol was involved.
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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2017, 01:48:46 PM »
It's almost a certainty that alcohol was involved.

and teenagers.

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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2017, 04:49:13 PM »
It's almost a certainty that alcohol was involved.


"Alcohol"?  Come on now, I hope that wasn't meant to be discriminatory.


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Re: Terlingua vandalism
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2017, 04:58:22 PM »
Would someone from Alpine be city folk? Marathon? Or do we only have three or four cities in Texas?

Regardless of where they currently call home they certainly don't know the difference between a ruin (junk pile) and a historic ruin (junk pile). They have no respect for other people's property. And likely may never be caught.

I really believe some people are just ignorant.


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