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cars and comparisons.

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Offline Otexana

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cars and comparisons.
« on: October 19, 2014, 02:13:44 PM »
Hi folks - new here, been reading the board for a while and I'm planning my second trip out this fall - all day hikes.

I'd like to hike part of marufo vega (will have rgv map) and have a few questions:

1) I've read strenuous,  no shade no water many times and my first idea for a comparable "strenuous" hike is the McKittrick canyon reef trail in the guadalupe mountains. Thoughts?

2) whats the car breakin situation in the fall? would my car be safer in the pullout across from the trailhead or @boquillas lot? It's by no means an expensive car, but it Is relatively new.

Thanks for the input!
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Offline steelfrog

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2014, 08:59:17 PM »
Way more strenuous than McKitterick if you are talking the whole MV loop

Yes definitely at th, not Boquillas

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Offline Otexana

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2014, 11:36:51 AM »
Thanks!

Definitely not the whole loop - would like to spend the day heading out to Randell's overlook and back, (saw the posts here, what a view!), maybe more if the late fall daylight allows. Should be similar to McK elevation gain-wise, just wanted to check with you folks to gauge it a little better and make sure there is nothing particularly tricky to avoid (a rip in the space-time continuum, for example).

Appreciate the feedback.

Also, apologies for posting in this forum. I am driving a long way to get there so...road trip.
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Offline Reece

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 03:28:56 PM »
From the M.V. trail head to the exit off-trail is about 2.5 mi. and 700 ft. elevation gain. The off-trail portion is 1 mi. and 300 ft. gain to the overlook. Do you have a map or GPS route for the off-trail part?

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Offline Otexana

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2014, 09:14:27 AM »
Thanks, Reece. No GPS, just topo and maybe some google earth printouts for grins. Was thinking of cutting straight east from the trail shortly after it meets up with the western trail coming from Strawhouse (can you see this junction?), then around the nose formed by the two draws...follow the eastern draw up, cut back to the SE around the peak and out to the overlook(ish). Seems like the easiest route but I'm certainly open to other suggestions.

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2014, 11:59:31 AM »
Thanks, Reece. No GPS, just topo and maybe some google earth printouts for grins. Was thinking of cutting straight east from the trail shortly after it meets up with the western trail coming from Strawhouse (can you see this junction?), then around the nose formed by the two draws...follow the eastern draw up, cut back to the SE around the peak and out to the overlook(ish). Seems like the easiest route but I'm certainly open to other suggestions.

Cheers!

After the trail junction you will follow the MV down the hill towards the wash then head E but will have to work your way down into and across the first wash and down into the next one.  There is a small pouroff as you round the peak to work around (we went to the right), after that it is a rocky and prickly route to the over look but there are a number of burro trails to follow, near the top we stayed more left.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Offline Reece

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2014, 02:22:09 PM »
There are several proven routes but all are bushwhacks. I took the green route.


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Offline steelfrog

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2014, 02:55:19 PM »
There's a printable .pdf that Lance made posted on this site somewhere, that has this on it

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2014, 02:56:48 PM »
There are several proven routes but all are bushwhacks. I took the green route.



Yep, Reece is correct and some of it depends on if you are going on to do the rest of the MV trail and/or coming back from it.  We did the red route (that I described above) and ended up at the green arrow.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Offline Otexana

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2014, 08:48:11 PM »
Great map, thanks guys! I'll look for the .pdf. Even though this will just be from th to overlook and back, I'm liking the looks of the longer green route - might be better overall visibility and less climbing for the vertically challenged like myself. The lechuguilla look like hell. Plan B will be to hike a little more of the MV and head back. ;)

Very much appreciate y'all's input. Heading there in a few weeks and i'm looking forward to writing "VACATION - NO PHONE NO EMAIL" outside my office door (no wifi drones...yet...)

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Offline Lance

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2014, 12:18:42 AM »
Here are said PDF maps you can print out for Marufo Vega and Randell's Overlook..

Marufo Vega Trail 8.5 x 11 (PDF)
Marufo Vega Trail 11 x 17 (PDF)

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Offline Otexana

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2014, 09:15:28 AM »
Thanks very much, folks. Cheers!
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Offline Otexana

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2014, 05:02:08 PM »
Thanks everyone for your maps to Randell's. I went to the park a few weeks ago when the area was slammed with 2 cold fronts and unfortunately did not make it to the overlook. I made it out to almost the turnoff for the off-trail part, but my body was just tired from camping in the cold (I've always been a cold-weather wuss) so I decided not to push it.

HOWEVER, MV is amazing and is definitely my favorite trail to date. It had rained recently, so the Ocotillo had leaves and it was overall delightfully green. I also have never seen this plant before in my life (I've roamed the Chihuahuan desert plenty of times, and even lived there) and it was the most beautiful thing! Some of the hillsides were littered with these "resurrection plants" (a type of spiky moss I guess?? and definitely something that might survive under my care...).

Also, have there been any reports of that trail being, um, haunted? I know this sounds completely ridiculous, but coming up on the wash on my way back to the th I saw 4 guys coming down "the climb" on MV who I had not seen AT ALL on any of the trails. I thought they were going to catch up and pass me at one point. There were no other cars parked at th, and when I got to my car I looked back and they were gone. Seriously....where did they go?

Anyway it was a fun trip and I will have to tackle Randell's next time.

Cheers!
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Offline Otexana

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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2014, 05:54:36 PM »
Let's try the pictures again, shall we?
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Re: cars and comparisons.
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2014, 11:58:24 AM »
I've seen those plants near the top of the crevice on the climb from Copper Plaque Falls up to Knife Ridge where there's an overlook of Bryan's Falls.  They seemed to grow from a ball and fold out like a head of cabbage.
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