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Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?

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Kinsa

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Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« on: September 02, 2015, 03:22:03 PM »
It seems like a more direct route from Del Rio to BBNP if you go through Mexico instead of going up and around the river then back down again into the park.

Is there a way to go through Mexico from Del Rio into BBNP?  Or is it easier to just follow US-90 even though it is a less direct route?

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2015, 03:34:56 PM »
Pretty much nothing but dirt roads and no legal crossing until Presidio.  US 90 is the most direct route.
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Kinsa

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2015, 03:42:33 PM »
Pretty much nothing but dirt roads and no legal crossing until Presidio.  US 90 is the most direct route.

Ah, that's what I was afraid of.  Bummer.  Thanks for the answer.

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2015, 08:21:11 PM »
In addition to the absence of blacktop, there is also the presence of unrest. 

The northern tier of Mexican states, especially along the border are really pretty lawless right now, isn't that so?

I am told that the drug lords rule that area as "their man's land" and that kidnapping and ransom are on the uptick.
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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2015, 08:57:36 PM »
I drove to Saltillo from Laredo about 15-years ago and that was quite an adventure back then. Here is a route to Presidio from Del Rio via Mexico. That looks REALLY adventurous. I would love to go to Chihuahua city some day, having read about the wagon road, i.e. the Old Chihuahua Trail, from San Antonio westward. BTW that US 90 route starts to look pretty short now doesn't it?  :icon_smile:

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2015, 10:21:37 PM »
I drove to Saltillo from Laredo about 15-years ago and that was quite an adventure back then. Here is a route to Presidio from Del Rio via Mexico. That looks REALLY adventurous. I would love to go to Chihuahua city some day, having read about the wagon road, i.e. the Old Chihuahua Trail, from San Antonio westward. BTW that US 90 route starts to look pretty short now doesn't it?  :icon_smile:

A mere 16 hour drive?  Pshaw.   :eusa_shifty:

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2015, 08:00:04 AM »
I'm not good at screen grabs from Google Earth, but you can drive from Del Rio to Muzquiz (about 120 miles), then north from Muzquiz to the turn-off for Boquillas (about another 100 miles).  From the turn-off it's just another 30-40 miles of gravel road to Boquillas.  So, approximately 300 miles, one way.
Don't forget to fill up your fuel tank in Muzquiz.  And some containers for the return trip.
Of course, once you get to Boquillas, you'll have to leave your vehicle there to cross the river.

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 07:42:49 AM »
Convenient? No.  Interesting?  Heck yes.  Think you have to go through Muzquiz and on to Presidio these days, but ca. 1988 several of us drove from Del Rio through Muzquiz and then up to the river at Boquillas.  We stopped at Rancho de los Pilares, on the west slope of the Maderas, then drove up into the mountains via a road past the "Secadero" south of La Noria, and topped out in the highest parts of the Maderas.  Was one of the more memorable trips of a lifetime.

After coming down from the Maderas we drove on up to Boquillas and hired a guide to get us through the maze of gullied-out hills to San Vicente.  Thought it was a waste of money, hiring the guide, but proved to be a very wise move.  At the time a group of horsemen known by park law enforcement folks as the "San Vicente Posse" would lasso the bumper of your car from horseback and pull it across the river into Texas, and you were on your way.
Those of you who see Big Bend today are seeing a very different, lesser place from what it was before the (insert curse word here) government shut down the border.

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 07:27:18 AM »
Convenient? No.  Interesting?  Heck yes.  Think you have to go through Muzquiz and on to Presidio these days, but ca. 1988 several of us drove from Del Rio through Muzquiz and then up to the river at Boquillas.  We stopped at Rancho de los Pilares, on the west slope of the Maderas, then drove up into the mountains via a road past the "Secadero" south of La Noria, and topped out in the highest parts of the Maderas.  Was one of the more memorable trips of a lifetime.

After coming down from the Maderas we drove on up to Boquillas and hired a guide to get us through the maze of gullied-out hills to San Vicente.  Thought it was a waste of money, hiring the guide, but proved to be a very wise move.  At the time a group of horsemen known by park law enforcement folks as the "San Vicente Posse" would lasso the bumper of your car from horseback and pull it across the river into Texas, and you were on your way.
Those of you who see Big Bend today are seeing a very different, lesser place from what it was before the (insert curse word here) government shut down the border.

Juan,

I envy you the trip up to the Maderas (as I'm sure most on this forum would).  I'm currently reading "In The Shadow of the Carmens" (recommended by someone on this forum) and the author describes a beautiful world of flora and fauna up there.  If only...

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Re: Is there a convenient way to go from Del Rio to BBNP via Mexico?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2015, 12:02:11 AM »
Those of you who see Big Bend today are seeing a very different, lesser place from what it was

Yep, and those that never saw never will have a clue what's been lost, and lost for no genuine reason whatsoever.

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before the (insert curse word here) government shut down the border.

Yes, but we are INFINITELY safer with the border being closed. Just ask the NPS/DHS/TSA/Customs/BP, etc., they'll be more than happy to assure you that everything is better with 1000% more bureaucracy and nothing else to show for the effort and money spent but aggravation and idiocy. And, the dang vendors from Boquillas still cross the river (illegally) and lay out their wares for sale in the park (illegally) with nary a concern that they will be accosted. But don't you try to cross that river without a passport or being officially checked in and on.

You cannot prove a negative. But since nothing nefarious has occurred since closing the border (except a continuation of the aforementioned illegal events that occur daily), clearly that is an achievement to be seized upon by those agencies as indicative the closure and over-the-top administrative measures at a border crossing literally in the middle of nowhere are necessary and working (even though there never were any untoward events in all the decades we crossed the river without so much as a fare thee well, much less a passport.

Every time I've used the new & improved Boquillas crossing there have been more BP/Customs/NPS employees in the station than people to be processed. And with all those agency folks present it's still a circle jerk going through the motions to be "allowed" back in. It's such an efficient and economical use of employees.
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