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Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: tornados_blow on September 27, 2006, 02:59:55 PM
Which is faster from San Antonio?  I-10 or Highway 90?  I am not a speeder.  I only cruise at speed limit +5.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: RichardM on September 27, 2006, 03:13:03 PM
I've only done 90 from SA once, but I'd bet I-10 is faster.  Of course, one of the reasons is there are more interesting places to stop and explore along 90.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: chisos_muse on September 27, 2006, 03:14:13 PM
I-10 is faster. The past two times I've made it from SA to PG in 5 1/2 hours. I usually go a little over the limit :roll: No really, about 5-10 mph over. And I don't stop to eat, only to pay the water bill! :lol:

90 is of course more interesting....but at least 2-3 hours longer
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: jeffblaylock on September 27, 2006, 03:20:53 PM
Speed limit on I-10 is 80 now, so Big Bend doesn't seem as far away as it used to.

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Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Casa Grande on September 27, 2006, 05:08:08 PM
I can answer this perfectly.  

From I10 it's 20 minutes faster than 90. But it's also about 40 miles longer and at the price of gas, that's no small thing.  90 is also much more fun than I10.  On the way back, of course, you have to go through 3 border patrol stations as opposed to only one going I10.

I prefer 90 to 10 only because it's more scenic and it's kind of a throw back to the pre-interstate days.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Undertaker on September 27, 2006, 05:14:10 PM
I-10 will beat 90 every time, it's vacation, enjoy either.  You miss law west of pecos and a few other interesting things, with exception of Border Patrol I-10 is faster, however Troopers patrol I-10 more than 90.  Have fun, be safe, smell the flowers.   8)
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: TheWildWestGuy on September 27, 2006, 06:53:57 PM
I have driven both and if you have lots of time take 90 but be warned there are a lot more deer standing near/in the road on 90 than I-10, this isn't a problem during daylight hours but I once counted over 100 deer on or near the road between Del Rio and Marathon on 90, I had to "crawl" along at about 60 to avoid hitting them on 90. If you take 90 you can stop at Seminole Canyon, Judge Roy Bean's, etc. but even one collison at 60 mph will ruin your entire trip.. TWWG
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: roncd on September 27, 2006, 07:23:38 PM
So for those of you that go I-10, where do you get off? Do you go all the way to Fort Stockton?

Most times I'm leaving late in the afternoon and from Central Texas (Temple), I take US190 straight through until it hits I-10 between Ozona and Bakersfield and go on to Ft. Stockton to spend the night. I can get to Ft. Stockton in just under 6 hours and then get up early the next morning and go on into the park.

But I've been looking at the map trying to figure out a way straight into the park and still being able to get there at a decent time (before midnight) when leaving late afternoon.

So what is the quickest way to get into the park from I-10

Ronnie
Title: Let me Know.
Post by: SHANEA on September 27, 2006, 07:38:13 PM
Quote from: "roncd"
So for those of you that go I-10, where do you get off? Do you go all the way to Fort Stockton?

Most times I'm leaving late in the afternoon and from Central Texas (Temple), I take US190 straight through until it hits I-10 between Ozona and Bakersfield and go on to Ft. Stockton to spend the night. I can get to Ft. Stockton in just under 6 hours and then get up early the next morning and go on into the park.

But I've been looking at the map trying to figure out a way straight into the park and still being able to get there at a decent time (before midnight) when leaving late afternoon.

So what is the quickest way to get into the park from I-10

Ronnie


Let me know when you figure out the quickest way going the 190 route.  This last time I ran all the way to Irann and picked up I-10 there.  If it's daylight, I'd rather run 190 all the way instead of cutting south to pick up I-10.  I did a quick mental calculation on cutting south from 190 down to I-10 @ Menard and figured the "cost" of going down that 2 lane heavily traveled road wouldn't be worth it.
Title: Re: Let me Know.
Post by: roncd on September 27, 2006, 08:04:09 PM
Quote from: "SHANEA"
Let me know when you figure out the quickest way going the 190 route.  This last time I ran all the way to Irann and picked up I-10 there.  If it's daylight, I'd rather run 190 all the way instead of cutting south to pick up I-10.  I did a quick mental calculation on cutting south from 190 down to I-10 @ Menard and figured the "cost" of going down that 2 lane heavily traveled road wouldn't be worth it.

I usually leave here around 3 p.m. and can get to I-10 by or just after dark. My last trip in early August, I didn't get to leave until almost 6 p.m. I decided it was safer (less likely to hit an deer or something) to cut down to I-10 at Eldarado. I think it was the right decision considering the circumstances but I too go all the way through Iraan if its still daylight.

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is after getting to I-10, which is the quickest way...go on to Ft. Stockton or cut across somewhere to hit 90.

Ronnie
Title: Re: Let me Know.
Post by: SHANEA on September 27, 2006, 08:18:43 PM
Quote from: "roncd"
(less likely to hit an deer or something) to cut down to I-10 at Eldarado.

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is after getting to I-10, which is the quickest way...go on to Ft. Stockton or cut across somewhere to hit 90.

Ronnie


Been there running 190 at 30mph in the dark with deer everywhere.

I've never really looked at a map to try to get to BIBE quicker by avoiding Fort Stockton and trying to get to 90.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: JeffB on September 27, 2006, 09:24:51 PM
I-10 to Fort Stockton is the fastest.  Its a much easier drive then Hwy 90.  

Hwy 90 is scenic and a good drive in daylight.  Night driving on 90 is no fun because of the deer and many curves.  When you get past Sanderson on Hwy 90 the night sky is incredible.  I like like to stop and stargaze while I "pay the water bill".
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: chisos_muse on September 27, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: "JeffB"
I-10 to Fort Stockton is the fastest.  Its a much easier drive then Hwy 90.  

Hwy 90 is scenic and a good drive in daylight.  Night driving on 90 is no fun because of the deer and many curves.  When you get past Sanderson on Hwy 90 the night sky is incredible.  I like like to stop and stargaze while I "pay the water bill".


You do that too, huh? :roll:
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Vince T on September 27, 2006, 09:42:34 PM
No doubt from SA, IH 10 is the speed route and 90 is the stop and smell the flowers route.
That's not to say IH 10 isn't pretty...it's just a completely different exprience.

I've gone about 5 different ways (likely more) between Austin and the park.

You can break off near Sheffield and head towards Sanderson...that's actuall one of my favorite routes. (SH349 to FM2400 to US285 if I have it right).
There is an AMAZING rest area just south of Bakersfield on a majestic hill.

There are also a number of county roads you can take between there to break it up...get the big Roads of Texas Book.  As far as I'm concerned, it's the best $16 you can spend!

You can also take 349 all the way down to 90.  (You hit 349 by taking 290 just east of Sheffield.)

Great times...great roads.  If you really feel adventerous, you can take the county roads all the way from just west of Sanderson almost right to FM2627 (the road to BGWMA) just north of PG.

Vince
Vince
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Casa Grande on September 28, 2006, 06:23:59 AM
Quote from: "roncd"
So for those of you that go I-10, where do you get off? Do you go all the way to Fort Stockton?


I go through Alpine down 67 to 118. Why? Well, not just because Sarah's family lives in Alpine, but the drive is WAY more interesting and you don't add that much to your trip. The extra 20 or so miles is well worth the scenery.  In fact, if you have even more time. Get off at Balmorreah and stop at the spring and have an awesome drive into Fort Davis on to Alpine or even down to Presidio and take the most scenic drive down the River Road through the State Park. Of course this adds  A LOT more time.  But if a quick B-Line is what you want. Take I10 to 67 South to 118 South into Study Butte. You won't regret that.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Casa Grande on September 28, 2006, 06:24:59 AM
Quote from: "Undertaker"
I-10 will beat 90 every time, it's vacation, enjoy either.  


well said!  And I can only add this, You're going to wind up in BIBE!
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Robert on September 28, 2006, 09:51:21 AM
Quote from: "Vince T"
You can break off near Sheffield and head towards Sanderson...that's actuall one of my favorite routes. There is an AMAZING rest area just south of Bakersfield on a majestic hill.


Back when I was a kid my dad took me out to the BBNP on a regular basis. This was in the 60's before IH10 was complete. I always remember stopping at that rest area on the old 290. It was just before you entered the Pecos River valley above Ft. Lancaster. We always left very early in the morning and arrived at the rest stop close to lunch. I  marked it as the "half-way" point to the park. The other thing I remember is that as you are driving on a high plateau you have no sense of your elevation until you get to the crest of the plateau and then everything opens up before you in the valley below. It's a great view.

Last week I was in Ft. Stockton for a few days staying at the Indian Lodge. Went out via IH10 and came back via 90. I had not been on 90 in a long, long time. There was very little traffic and we made excellent time. While I didn't time it I would suspect it was David says only maybe 20 minutes difference. The Texas Sage was in bloom around Del Rio and the hillsides were solid purple.

But from Del Rio to Marathon there isn't much of anything which is what I remember. When we used to go this way you had to be full on gas in Del Rio if you were driving late because nothing was open from there to the park.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Undertaker on September 28, 2006, 09:59:30 AM
David, I bet when the time comes and anyone on this board is on way to grave, they will be saying wait a minute can you pull over, stop here, lets visit the view, what about Law west of Pecos, can we stop at BIBB.

Nope lets just rush through life, life is always to short, always, always, always stop and smell the flowers. Try somthing different, go somewhere you have not been, visit your favorite places (BB), visit folks you know, or sit on porch and visit folks you don't know, make new friends, life passes faster as you get older, it speeds up in a headlong race to the grave.  You can rest when you die.   :shock:  8)

SMELL THE FLOWERS!!!!!  REST WHEN YOU DIE!!!!
Title: Reminds Me
Post by: SHANEA on September 28, 2006, 10:41:52 AM
Quote from: "Undertaker"
they will be saying wait a minute can you pull over, stop here, lets visit the view, what about Law west of Pecos, can we stop at BIBB.


Reminds me of the 1st time I went with a group out towards BIBE - my first trip - I wanted to stop everywhere.  The group relented some and we stopped at Bracketville to see the fake Alamo, etc.  I've always "intended" to stop at the Ally Oop park in Irann, but I'm always in a hurry coming or going - the horse has already seen the barn at that point in time.  I was driving one time going down 90 and decided we needed to stop and see the Judge.  My hiking buddy just about fell out that we were stopping there.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Undertaker on September 28, 2006, 10:51:18 AM
Bet he has taken other people there now!!!
Title: Not on your life.
Post by: SHANEA on September 28, 2006, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: "Undertaker"
Bet he has taken other people there now!!!


No way.  He still is a pedal to the metal white knuckle driver.  He won't even stop at the Pecos River Bridge to see it again.  If I'm on Hwy 90, I always stop to see the river....
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Vince T on September 28, 2006, 11:00:42 AM
Quote from: "Robert"
[But from Del Rio to Marathon there isn't much of anything which is what I remember.


There are actually a few interesting spots along the way - at least I find them interesting.
I almost always stop at the Pecos bridge overlook.
When I'm by myself or not afraid to be too embarassed, I give a few loud shouts and enjoy the echos.

West of there a bit there is a drainage called Eagles Nest that is a really neat spot.  Pull over and romp through there sometime.  Careful though...if you stop there you'll see what I mean.

In Sanderson there is a hotel on the north side of 90 that I promise is worth a stop.  It's the Outback Oasis Motel.  They have a great collection of desert snakes that you can enjoy for free.  I'm not into snakes, really, but the collection is very interesting.  They don't advertise their collection, so you will likely be the only one in there.
http://www.outbackoasismotel.com/outback/index.html

Just some thoughts-

Vince
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Ray52 on September 28, 2006, 12:55:03 PM
Great thread :!:   I'm leaving in less than 72 hours now and will have a decision to make about 6 hours into my drive.  I lean toward Old 90 as I enjoyed the drive from Castroville to Marathon immensely on my previous trip.  The curious part of me wants to travel 10 for a comparison, but I'm also taking 2 friends who I think will enjoy the sights along 90 as well as I do.  Didn't Robert Frost once write a poem about such choices?
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Undertaker on September 28, 2006, 01:38:48 PM
Ray, if first time for friends recommend 90, you can always try 10 on way home.  8)

Pecos overlook and Langtry
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Vince T on September 28, 2006, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: "Undertaker"
Ray, if first time for friends recommend 90, you can always try 10 on way home.  8)

Pecos overlook and Langtry


I agree completely -

Just one last thing I might suggest.  If you can avoid Del Rio around 5pm, you'll be glad you did.  There are about 20 lights you have to go through to get through town...that's the only bad part on the whole trip...at least it gets to me.  There was also construction on 90 east of town last time I was there - near Laughlin AFB.  

Gas is cheap at that HEB on the corner (when 90 turns 90 degress in the heart of town), if you are looking for an upside.  

Definitely don't want to talk you out of 90.  It's a great drive...even if you don't see "anything" for an hour or three.

Vince
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: bdann on September 28, 2006, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: "Vince T"


Gas is cheap at that HEB on the corner (when 90 turns 90 degress in the heart of town), if you are looking for an upside.  


heh, I have a story about that....

Six years ago, myself, my brother Kenny, and my buddy Grant take the long way to Big Bend because of an ice storm in the Midland/Odessa area.  We normally head out of Dallas on I-20 and go that way.  We wanted to avoid the ice, so we headed south in I-35, then got on 90 in SA.

We knew we'd better get gas in Del Rio, so we stopped and filled up.  My brother being the low man on the totem pole was selected to fill Grant's Jeep up (it was freezing cold).
So we get back on the road and almost immediately Kenny informs us he forgot to put the gas cap back in place.  So we turn around and go back looking for it.  We found in in the middle of the street right outside the station.  Kenny gets out, picks it up and puts it back on the Jeep.  We turn around again and somehow miss the turn to stay on 90.  Oblivious to this fact, we suddenly find ourselves on a bridge.....then... what?...we have to pay a toll???  that sign says ALTO??? huh??  DOH!

That's the story of my five minute visit to Acuna at two in the morning.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Vince T on September 28, 2006, 05:18:56 PM
:D  Now that was funny.
I have been down that road too...much prefer the "right" way!
Vince
Title: I Don't Know...
Post by: SHANEA on September 28, 2006, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: "Ray52"
The curious part of me wants to travel 10


I think there is lots of neat stuff to see on I-10 also - including all the windfarms.  I swear, those windmills are like coat hangers and rabbits...
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: SHANEA on September 28, 2006, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: "bdann"
Oblivious to this fact, we suddenly find ourselves on a bridge.....then... what?...we have to pay a toll???  that sign says ALTO??? huh??  DOH!

That's the story of my five minute visit to Acuna at two in the morning.


Oops, hit the reverse or do an illegal u-turn or something, there are probably a lot of misc. shells rolling around all over the place in my vehicle that I wouldn't want to try to cross the border with....
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Ray52 on September 28, 2006, 09:24:23 PM
I think an entry via 90 and return by IH10 might be in order.  The first time I crossed the Pecos bridge in february 06 (totally unexpected) a fierce coldfront was moving through and the temps were in the high 20's.  On my return it was too dark so I think it will make a good stop for photos and switching drivers on this trip.  I nearly always travel solo and love to rubberneck so it will be a pleasant chance to do so without worrying about driving off the road. Besides the Pecos bridge i also found Eagle's Nest, Langtry and the miles of nothing between Amistad and Marathon to be fascinating.  Our goal will be to set camp in the basin before dark and hike to the Window for sunset.  I'm not above a little kitsch either so I do want to see the giant roadrunner and the windmills too.... Is there ever enough time???
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Al on September 28, 2006, 09:35:16 PM
Da loop is the way to go, for sure.  I-10 is faster but both routes get you there.  It all depends on when you leave and when you need to get there.  Regardless you have a long drive from the Golden Triangle.

Where are you staying the first night?  Sorry if this is redundant.

Al
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Ray52 on September 28, 2006, 10:03:01 PM
Redundant???? So you know my middle name huh, Al?  First night will be in the Basin.  Two of us are leaving at either 3 or 4 AM, picking up our 3rd somewhere along I10 in Houston and heading west.  We have a mutual friend scheduled for open heart surgery tomorrow morning so may stop at the hospital in SA to visit with his wife (certain he'll still be in ICU).  From there its on to the Park.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Al on September 28, 2006, 10:20:33 PM
You're way ahead of me . . . we usually end up in Rio Grande Village 'cause we get there too late for a permit.  They've got heart surgery down these days.  Hope your bud in SA recovers quickly and goes on to kick ass.  

I've been hanging out in ICU lately too.  My 89 year old mother in law had a fall.  Good news! She's getting better every day.  

Once you get west of San Antonio, I bet you'll feel like the world is much bigger. Has every thing to do with the wide open spaces of west Texas.

Have a great trip and enjoy!

Al
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: tornados_blow on September 28, 2006, 10:21:30 PM
I see my simple question has blossomed into a full discussion here.  Thank you for all the good info.  I think I may head out on I-10 and come back on 90.  I want to get to the park as early as possible to get my choice of camp site.

A bit off topic, but...
My current plan is to Leave super early on Nov 10 and comeback on the 12.  It is a quick trip, but it is the only time I can fit it in.  I had to scrap my October plans and this is what I am left with.

We are planning on hiking the Lost Mine Peak trail and the South Rim.  I haven't done either yet.  I have only hiked up Emory so far.  These plans should wear us out, but it'll be fun.
Title: Might...
Post by: SHANEA on September 29, 2006, 12:07:55 AM
Quote from: "Ray52"
I10 in Houston and heading west.


Might want to check out what roads are being closed in I-10 - depending on when your 72 hours started.  Houston is in a perpetual state of construction.  I know I-10 on the West side is a mess.  They have this ugly habit of closing off major portions of freeways on the weekends.  Last time I went to West Houston I thought I'd be smart and take the beltway SamHouton Toll Road around to I-10 on the West Side.  It was fubard all the way out towards Katy.  Maybe someone around here lives in H Town and can give advise.
Title: Re: Might...
Post by: JeffB on September 29, 2006, 01:24:37 AM
Quote from: "SHANEA"
Quote from: "Ray52"
I10 in Houston and heading west.


Might want to check out what roads are being closed in I-10 - depending on when your 72 hours started.  Houston is in a perpetual state of construction.  I know I-10 on the West side is a mess.  They have this ugly habit of closing off major portions of freeways on the weekends.  Last time I went to West Houston I thought I'd be smart and take the beltway SamHouton Toll Road around to I-10 on the West Side.  It was fubard all the way out towards Katy.  Maybe someone around here lives in H Town and can give advise.



I live in far west Houston at I-10/Eldridge and its hard to get home if I stay out past 3AM.   They do construction late at night to minimize impact on rush hour and daytime traffic.

The west Houston/Katy portion of I-10 is great at 3 or 4 AM.   The construction is  complete in that area. HOWEVER, Beware the 610/I-10 ramps are closed at certain hours around 3-4AM.  If you come from 610 at 4AM you won't be able to get on I-10 heading west.  You'll have to detour and drive all over creation to get back to I-10.  They are doing construction on the 610/I-10 junction and the ramps are all closed.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Ray52 on September 29, 2006, 12:01:01 PM
Good info Jeff & Shane.  My brother lives off of Fry Rd south of 10 and I never think of the construction until I'm enroute (actually not until I see the rows of brake lights ahead of me) to his house.  The current conditions might complicate our planned rendezvous with the 3rd member of our group who we're planning to meet somewhere along 10 in the greater Houston area.  Wish me luck with the closures, a tailwind, and falling gas prices!
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: SHANEA on September 29, 2006, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: "Ray52"
somewhere along 10 in the greater Houston area.  Wish me luck with the closures, a tailwind, and falling gas prices!


At least the Houston drivers are courteous and always wave the friendly finger at you and honk to say hi!  :lol:
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: RichardM on September 29, 2006, 02:01:04 PM
As long as you stay on I-10 and not try to use 610 you should be ok.  Check the Houston Real-Time Traffic Map (http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/layers/) just before you leave home if you get the chance.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Al on September 29, 2006, 02:24:14 PM
I've always had good luck with the North 610 loop.  Even during rush hour.  I-10 sucks going west from Houston at least until you get past the tollway, which I understand there is a new one going west from 59 that is supposed to be pretty nice.

Al
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: RichardM on September 29, 2006, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: "Al"
I've always had good luck with the North 610 loop.  Even during rush hour.  I-10 sucks going west from Houston at least until you get past the tollway, which I understand there is a new one going west from 59 that is supposed to be pretty nice.

The problem I've always had heading west during rush hour on Friday afternoon is once you get to 610 on I-10.  Coming from Clear Lake, I usually have no problems on I-45 until I get close to 610 South when it gets a bit congested, then things pick up again a bit until getting close to downtown.  Once I get on to I-10, I can typically speed up to 65-70 until things neck down close to 610 West.  The big problem right now is all of the construction on the 610 ramps.  The HOV lane is much shorter right now, too.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Al on September 29, 2006, 03:45:35 PM
I would tend to want to go 290 west from 610 and then cut down to 10 on the tollway.  I'm usually going to Austin not San Antonio and have learned from experience to stay off 10 unless it is well before 3 PM until beyond the tollway.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Al on September 29, 2006, 03:47:27 PM
At least they won't be moving any of those damn windmill blades that time of day.  It's amazing how many of those are coming into Houston and then trucked out to west Texas.  Many Many!

Al
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Casa Grande on September 29, 2006, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: "Al"
At least they won't be moving any of those damn windmill blades that time of day.  It's amazing how many of those are coming into Houston and then trucked out to west Texas.  Many Many!

Al


what's even more amazing is how HUGE they are!
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: SA Bill on September 29, 2006, 11:46:08 PM
This turned out to be a nice thread! I've been going 90 most recent trips to BB. Now that we can go 80mph legally on 10, I'll have to try that way again.  Remember the 55mph speed limit in the '70s? That was torture on a drive to BB!!

I'm actually going to do both routes in a couple of weeks...10 out to GUMO, down to BB and back to SA via 90. Should be a good trip!
  Bill
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Ray52 on September 30, 2006, 08:26:37 PM
Not much time left for indecision.  I leave at 3 AM after a few hours sleep.  We should be in San Antonio by 8 AM for a quick visit with a buddy recovering from open heart surgery and then its time for a decision.  I like the idea that Muse says she saves 2-3 hours by going 10, but like David countered, its 40 miles shorter via 90, and for him less than a half hour longer.  Whichever we end up taking, there's absolutely no indecision about our destination and I can't wait to be there.  Good Night!
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: BigBendHiker on September 30, 2006, 09:37:28 PM
Just got back from BIBE.  From our home in South Texas, we always drive to San Antonio and go from there.  Outbound from SA, we used Hwy 90; inbound, we used I-10.  The hwy 90 route seemed a bit faster...

Hwy 90 is a more scenic route and because there are small towns that you go through, it does seem to make the trip more enjoyable.  Plus, we always go over to Acuna and eat at Crosby's (always a very enjoyable experience).

I-10 is probably a safer route since it is divided highway all the way.  One downside on Hwy 90 -- if you get behind some slow moving traffic after Uvalde (and the divided highway), you had better plan on staying behind them...passing them can be difficult as there is always alot of oncoming traffic...


BBH
Title: Thanks
Post by: roncd on October 05, 2006, 09:10:37 PM
Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread and to Tornadoes for posting in the first place. This was a question that I also had but hadn't got around to posting it.

I'll be leaving for the park tomorrow afternoon, hopefully by 4 p.m. and if I make that, arrive in Fort Stockton around 10 p.m. for the night.

I think I'll come back Sunday via the "Stop and smell the flowers" route as I won't be in as quite a rush to get back home as I will be to get TO the park.

Look forward to meeting some of you this weekend.

Ronnie
Title: speed
Post by: JohnG on October 11, 2006, 10:03:48 AM
I find I-10 faster because if we go anywhere near Del Rio I am required (by spouse) to go to Acuna for several hours.
Title: Re: speed
Post by: BigBendHiker on October 11, 2006, 10:27:18 AM
Quote from: "JohnG"
I find I-10 faster because if we go anywhere near Del Rio I am required (by spouse) to go to Acuna for several hours.


Hi JohnG!
I like your comment!  I can identify with that one.  Our outbound trips to BIBE are always punctuated with an overnight stay at the Best Western Villa Real in Acuna.  My wife likes to visit the shops in Acuna there on Hidalgo Street and eat at Crosby's (and I do too, come to think of it).  


BBH
Title: I 10 vs US 90
Post by: badknees on February 28, 2007, 06:29:58 PM
I have made many runs from Houston on both the I 10 and I 10/US 90 routes. Typical trip is to leave Houston at about 9:00 PM and arrive in the Basin about 7:00 the next morning. I usually take 90 out of SA. This route is shorter than I 10 all the way and time wise very similar. I usually depart the Basin about 08:00 and arrive back in Houston about 18:00 coming back thru Ft Stockton and 1-10.

Stops are limited to gas and watering the grass. Some have remarked that the deer are bad along 90, but comparing the number of roadkills on I 10 and 90, I'd say I 10 has far more deer, especially between Kerrville and Juction.

I like the night run. Kind of peaceful. I usually take a nap in the daytime before the drive for about 6 or 7 hrs and am good for the red-eye run.

Still have to be careful and alert regardless of which route you take
Title: Re: I 10 vs US 90
Post by: BigBendHiker on February 28, 2007, 07:43:17 PM
Quote from: "badknees"
I have made many runs from Houston on both the I 10 and I 10/US 90 routes. Typical trip is to leave Houston at about 9:00 PM and arrive in the Basin about 7:00 the next morning. I usually take 90 out of SA. This route is shorter than I 10 all the way and time wise very similar. I usually depart the Basin about 08:00 and arrive back in Houston about 18:00 coming back thru Ft Stockton and 1-10.

Stops are limited to gas and watering the grass. Some have remarked that the deer are bad along 90, but comparing the number of roadkills on I 10 and 90, I'd say I 10 has far more deer, especially between Kerrville and Juction.

I like the night run. Kind of peaceful. I usually take a nap in the daytime before the drive for about 6 or 7 hrs and am good for the red-eye run.

Still have to be careful and alert regardless of which route you take


Thanks for the post.  Reading it reminded me of my first trip to BIBE in 1979.  We left Victoria at about midnight on a Friday with the intent to get to the basin fairly early to secure a campsite.  There were four of us piled into a 1969 Chevy Impala that was loaded to the gills with tent, ice chest, food, etc.  Ate breakfast at a Denney's in Del Rio around 5AM and continued on and got to the Basin around 9 or 10AM.   The night drive into Del Rio was nice and peaceful, though and watching daylight come as we headed west on Hwy 90 was equally rewarding.

BBH
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: stingrey on April 10, 2007, 06:27:43 AM
I'm trying to make the same decision re: when to leave/which way to go. I'm thinking 10, but I will be leaving for the bend @ about 2-3a.m., so maybe it doesn't matter which route I take... What is the night time speed limit on each road? 65 on 10, right? I have no idea what the limit is on 90, though. If they are about the same, it might make more sense to do 90 vs. 10 @ night. Any insight appreciated! I'm going this Friday morning, for reference! Can't wait!
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: Casa Grande on April 10, 2007, 07:04:43 AM
Quote from: "stingrey"
I'm trying to make the same decision re: when to leave/which way to go. I'm thinking 10, but I will be leaving for the bend @ about 2-3a.m., so maybe it doesn't matter which route I take... What is the night time speed limit on each road? 65 on 10, right? I have no idea what the limit is on 90, though. If they are about the same, it might make more sense to do 90 vs. 10 @ night. Any insight appreciated! I'm going this Friday morning, for reference! Can't wait!


If you're traveling at night, I would try I-10, since scenery isn't an issue.  I-10 is 65 at night but when light hits, crank it up to 80 (past Kerrville)!  I believe 90 is 65 at night also but 70, maybe even 75 during the day. I10 is going to be a faster route.  I10 will also likely be a bit safer if you get stranded as your chances of getting help will likely be greater.  Watch out for the deer whichever way you decide to go.
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: stingrey on April 17, 2007, 06:36:04 PM
Took 10 out, 90 back... I believe that 10 is the best route for speed, 90 is definitely the best for scenery. Depending on what you are after, each has its definite advantages. Had a great time, will post a link to pics when they are up!
Title: Which is Faster from San Antonio?
Post by: presidio on April 17, 2007, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: "Casa Grande"
I believe 90 is 65 at night


That is correct. Also, there is no posted speed higher than 65 on any road in the state at night. Strange way of doing business. I'm not aware offhand that any other state has a limit for night operation that differs from their daytime limits.

While it makes sense to slow down in those areas where the abundance of deer make it likely you'll hit one, in west TX it doesn't serve much purpose. Like the raising of western limits to 80, they ought to do something about the 65 at night as well.