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Offline 1badtk

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Low Flying Jet?
« on: April 09, 2010, 03:44:26 PM »
While standing on the trail leading up to the explanation of the fossils found on the North side of the National Park a low flying jet, (3000-4000ft) passed right over us. Nice twin jet engine 12-15 passenger flew low towards the East straight at the mountains in that area, pulled up and skimmed over the tops and dove back down. I have never seen any jets fly over Big Bend much less any that low. Mostly avoiding any radar in the area, and not doing much on any site seeing at those speeds.
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 10:45:03 PM »
I have seen military jets @ 2,000 ft, and an NPS Patrol planes before, and even a helicopter, but never a civilian jet...sounds suspicious

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Offline Vince T

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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 11:02:59 PM »
A friend of mine was a flight instructor for the USAF out of Del Rio and he told me one of their low-flight routes took them over the park and around to Alpine.
Those T1's look just like Lear jets.
Sounds like yours was heading east...or the opposite direction though.

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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 12:04:59 AM »
While standing on the trail leading up to the explanation of the fossils found on the North side of the National Park a low flying jet, (3000-4000ft) passed right over us. Nice twin jet engine 12-15 passenger flew low towards the East straight at the mountains in that area, pulled up and skimmed over the tops and dove back down. I have never seen any jets fly over Big Bend much less any that low. Mostly avoiding any radar in the area, and not doing much on any site seeing at those speeds.

Bet the pilot was formerly military.  Wish I had a jet.  Years ago when we flew to Costa Rica and stopped in Belize, the pilot did a follow the river thing at about a 1,000 feet above the forest for what seemed like at least 5 or 6 minutes then into the airport with a 737.  Wow!

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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 12:28:59 AM »
While standing on the trail leading up to the explanation of the fossils found on the North side of the National Park a low flying jet, (3000-4000ft) passed right over us. Nice twin jet engine 12-15 passenger flew low towards the East straight at the mountains in that area, pulled up and skimmed over the tops and dove back down. I have never seen any jets fly over Big Bend much less any that low. Mostly avoiding any radar in the area, and not doing much on any site seeing at those speeds.

Last Wednesday, I saw a long sleek jet flying super low when I was on 385 between the Border Patrol station and the Park.  I took a double-take on it, but poof, it was gone.  I think I caught it in one of my photos by accident as well.
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 07:05:46 PM »
I've seen them several times at Grapevine Hills. They were fly from west to east and looked like low flying lear jets to me..

I thought about it being a lear at first, but three things bothered me about that thought. One, I was pretty darn close to it and heard nothing at all. Two, the fuselage seemed too long and narrow, and I didn't see any windows. Three, it sured seemed mighty close to the ground and the hills to be a civilian craft. My next thought was if it might be a drone being used by the Border Patrol.

I can see it being one of these painted a dark color.


« Last Edit: April 13, 2010, 09:50:56 PM by RichardM »
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 09:09:56 AM »
Well this one was White and had windows, seamed a little thick in the mid body, two jet engines mounted at the rear each side of the tail, and was quite LOUD as it passed. We watched as it headed straight for the mountains in the East like it was going to crash. The it took a straight up power on climb and over the mountain, and back down on the other side. Brought a little relief as it did that, didn't hit the mountain, because we were so sure it was going to.
Not a drone, not a boarder patrol, not a military trainer, had to be private or charter jet. I had a camera but dimwittedly chose to watch thru the binoculars.(sp) It was also on Friday the 9th of April around 10:00am, but I do remember hearing another one on Wednesday and asking ourselves, "was that a jet?"
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 10:54:34 AM »
Could have been a Gulfstream operated by the US military or other government agency.  C-37a and C-20s are all variants of Gulfstream III, IV, and V aircraft.  From the ground, they would look like any other private or civilian Gulfstream jet.  Who knows though.  :icon_question:
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 03:44:58 PM »
Well this one was White and had windows, seamed a little thick in the mid body, two jet engines mounted at the rear each side of the tail, and was quite LOUD as it passed. We watched as it headed straight for the mountains in the East like it was going to crash. The it took a straight up power on climb and over the mountain, and back down on the other side. Brought a little relief as it did that, didn't hit the mountain, because we were so sure it was going to.
Not a drone, not a boarder patrol, not a military trainer, had to be private or charter jet. I had a camera but dimwittedly chose to watch thru the binoculars.(sp) It was also on Friday the 9th of April around 10:00am, but I do remember hearing another one on Wednesday and asking ourselves, "was that a jet?"

Ahh.  I guess what I saw was completely different than what you saw.
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 08:03:06 PM »
This was really tiny in my image, so small at first I thought I had dust on my sensor, but here is a crop of the section to show what I saw.  I really think this was a border patrol drone, but I am open to other ideas ....

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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 11:28:16 PM »
I've seen them several times at Grapevine Hills.  They were fly from west to east and looked like low flying lear jets to me..


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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2010, 11:52:55 PM »
They could be a Lear but that would surprise me.  I've only flown on a Lear once, many years ago.  I remember exclaiming upon takeoff,  "Go vertical!".  The acceleration, compared to a commercial jet, is incredible.  They are designed to go high and go fast but have limited range particularly at low altitude.  Could be but would not be a jet of choice to fly low and "slow".

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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 06:50:05 AM »
I hope you don’t mind Miles of Texas but I took the liberty of downloading your photo for further analysis. Being a conspiracy theorist of sorts I ran this photo through a gamut of sophisticated software to see if there was anything we might be missing. Sure enough when I ran it through some proprietary software known as “Re-Visualize” what was once cloaked is now visible. Obviously the low unidentified flying object you saw was meant to be cloaked. You can rest assured that “it” saw you and scanned you into a database somewhere. Having not only seen it but also photographed it you may want to consider going “underground”.
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 07:04:54 AM »
I hope you don’t mind Miles of Texas but I took the liberty of downloading your photo for further analysis. Being a conspiracy theorist of sorts I ran this photo through a gamut of sophisticated software to see if there was anything we might be missing. Sure enough when I ran it through some proprietary software known as “Re-Visualize” what was once cloaked is now visible. Obviously the low unidentified flying object you saw was meant to be cloaked. You can rest assured that “it” saw you and scanned you into a database somewhere. Having not only seen it but also photographed it you may want to consider going “underground”.

Naw, I don't mind.

Oh WOW, so THAT's why the border patrol agent at the hwy 385 checkpoint said I looked familiar!  Where do you hide?  :rolling:
« Last Edit: April 15, 2010, 07:08:37 AM by MilesOfTexas »
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Re: Low Flying Jet?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 08:43:17 AM »
Maybe they are searching for the "waterworks"!?

Now that's an idea!  Bring a remote controlled plane with a wireless camera to fly out in the area you want to explore, haha.
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