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I have never known Burns Spring not to be flowing.
Quote from: mediopelo on September 28, 2017, 11:26:27 PMI have never known Burns Spring not to be flowing.I haven't heard of that one before. Where is it?
Quote from: RichardM on September 29, 2017, 08:21:07 AMQuote from: mediopelo on September 28, 2017, 11:26:27 PMI have never known Burns Spring not to be flowing.I haven't heard of that one before. Where is it?Just south of Dugout Wells and northeast of Rice Tank
Fascinating subject, DRS. Dicey stuff, though, ranking water sources that are less than 100% reliable. So much depends upon unpredictable factors from season to season. It's also hard to quantify "reliable". For example, I think Pena Spring has had flow every time I've visited. But finding the source, and then forcing my way through heavy, thorny brush to reach it, is an entirely different matter. And then, of course, there's the danger of a relatively inexperienced user heading out into the backcountry based on what they pick up off a list like this. So everything we post here should be taken lightly, not as gospel.That said, I'll add a few sources to the list: in answer to your question mark, Ernst Tinaja is definitely reliable, no question. I believe it may actually contain a spring that keeps it so. Devil's Den, a bit north of there, has always been home to at least one, and usually several, well-filled tinajas when I've visited it. Though I suppose they could run dry during an extreme and prolonged drought. Maybe others have seen them dry. Moving to the other side of the park, I've never known (nor heard reported) that Red Ass Spring was less than reliable. ME puts it at 70%, I'd probably bump it up to 80%. In the middle of the park, just east of of the always reliable Fresno Creek drainage are the always reliable and always tasty Adler Spring a bit south of the Dodson Trail, and the not always reliable and never tasty Dodson spring on the north side of the trail. I'd put it at 50% reliable for water, and 20% reliable for potability. And I definitely second ME's citing Glenn Springs as reliable. The key to depending on these backcountry sources is redundancy. Always plan for back-up sources, or bail-out plans, or both, in case supposedly dependable sources turn out to be less than reliable.
Within the Park, the Johnsonís Ranch gauging station recorded several days in 1953, 1955, 1957, and 1958 when the riverbed was dry Ernst Tinaja has been dry before, but I cant remember which year.Point being.....records get broken. ME's approach is best - watch the multiyear rainfall totals.Having said that, I believe that Ward Spring, Mule Ears Spring, Upper Oak Spring and Dominguez are at the top of the list.(possibly in that order)
As a follow up question, have people ever had to extract water from a spring when there was not a pool or a trickle of flowing water? Is there any other gear worth bringing that helps with really poor quality springs like say the Dodson spring, or where the water may be mostly below the surface?
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