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SHANEA

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« on: March 24, 2006, 11:06:35 PM »
Who's running "La Plaza" these days, or is there still a "La Plaza"?

I've always thought that he looked like a very mean man.





I've had nightmares of him sneaking into camp at night.   :shock:   Kinda like the time I dreamed men with tiki torches were after me on the banks of the Neches River.
 
Mimi Webb Miller, of Mimi's Miracle Ranch, appears to still be around Terlingua.  What's she up to these days?  Does she still have the Miracle Ranch?  

Here is an assignment for Viper!  (I'm so good at spending others money and giving assignments!)  Viper, next time you are at the UT Library, should be every night since you are a budding college rock hound student, check out and see if they have the book Portraits from the Desert by Bill Wright.  1998.    There is supposed to be a picture of Mimi as #151 in it.  I'd like to see what she looks like.  Looks like a good book, unfortunately it is out of print.  It is by the UT Press
 
http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/excerpts/exwripor.html

Mimi is known as the "denizen of Terlingua" - another word for you to look up Richard.

Interesting quote on Mimi -  
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We drove up the river to Terlingua north of the Big Bend country where we met up with a fascinating lady, Mimi Webb Miller - who was involved with the late Pablo Acosta of Ojinaga and knows the area well. Most people are only aware of drugs smuggled north from Mexico - but are unaware of the huge amounts of arms smuggled south - into Mexico. It's not a comforting scenario but as long as the demand is there and guns of all kinds are readily available north of the border - and drugs south of the border - the exchange of contraband will continue to the annoyance of our respective governments.


http://www.arhoolie.com/news/2001decchrisletter.html

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SHANEA

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2006, 11:58:02 PM »
Dang, no replies to this post, no information, not even from the Women of the Desert, and Viper has not taken up his assignment!   :(

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SHANEA

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2006, 12:02:39 AM »
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Kinda like the time I dreamed men with tiki torches were after me on the banks of the Neches River.


Ah, the night of the men with Tiki torches.  Used to go camping/canoeing down the nasty Neches river.  Went one summer when it was hot as blue blazes, over July 4th as I recall.  River well above flood stage.  We had these cool jungle hammocks to sleep in with msq. netting to keep us from getting ferried away.   ShaneA had had a little too much "red sht" - fruit punch and tequilia and got sent to bed early one night as he was falling into the fire where the fajitas were cooking.  We used to have tiki torches all around the camp for light.  I woke up in the middle of the night and saw the Tiki torches and the full moon and could have sworn the "men with tiki torches" were after me.   8)

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 09:05:24 AM »
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Kinda like the time I dreamed men with tiki torches were after me on the banks of the Neches River.


Ah, the night of the men with Tiki torches.  Used to go camping/canoeing down the nasty Neches river.  Went one summer when it was hot as blue blazes, over July 4th as I recall.  River well above flood stage.  We had these cool jungle hammocks to sleep in with msq. netting to keep us from getting ferried away.   ShaneA had had a little too much "red sht" - fruit punch and tequilia and got sent to bed early one night as he was falling into the fire where the fajitas were cooking.  We used to have tiki torches all around the camp for light.  I woke up in the middle of the night and saw the Tiki torches and the full moon and could have sworn the "men with tiki torches" were after me.   8)



OH DEAR!......the tequila and fruit punch sounds like a really bad "porcelain god" nightmare!!!!!!  :lol:  :lol:

The Tiki torch dude reminds me of that Bugs Bunny cartoon..."unga-bunga-bunga" :!:

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2006, 03:49:24 AM »
next time i'm on that part of campus i'll pick the book up for you :)

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 06:15:05 PM »
well i got the book, let me go look for the picture and take a picture of it for you :D

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2006, 06:31:45 PM »
sorry about the quality, i didn't want to use a flash and glare off the glossy pages, so i used a very large aperature which led to that crappy depth of field  :oops: but you get the idea. let me know if you want a better one or anything else, sorry i don't have a scanner  :lol:


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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 12:37:37 AM »
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sorry about the quality


Quality is perfect for my needs.  Mucho Gracias!   You deserve a beer or a scotch or whatever.  Now, I have a face to go with the story.  I'd always wondered what she looked like, not bad, not bad at all.  I don't know what I was expecting, but I wasn't expecting what you came up with.  She's the niece of the late Senator John Tower I believe.  As best as I can tell, she still lives in the Lajitas Terlingua area.     In fact, just this eveing I was rereading a few of the stories in the book.  Somehow the face just does not fit with associating with a bad man like Pablo.  I wonder if she still has Mimi's Miracle Ranch on the other side from Lajitas?    The stories I was rereading tonight concerned Pablos final stand at Santa Elena and how the Mexican Federal police swooped in from the American side.  It must have been really "intense" to have been down around Cottonwood camping when all this broke loose - the sound of automatic weapons piercing the still and tranquil evening BIBE air, helicopters, etc.  If you were on the South Rim camping I bet you could have heard all the commotion.  I wonder who the NPS rangers were that took part in this of giving directions, fetching ice, etc. and if any of them are still at BIBE?  All of this took place in 1987.  So, her picture being taken in 1982 well predated Pablos demise, and was around the beginning of his controlling the Plaza.

Now, that picture was taken in 1982, 24 years ago.  Based on the picture you have provided, it looks like she was in her late 30's early 40's - let's say 40 for  :D which would now put her in her mid 60's.  Interesting glasses she's wearing on her head.  Looks like she is wearing either two or three rings on her right hand, could just be shadows, but under magnification looks like rings to me.  Looks to be a very "strong willed person" - very independent.  Has a concerned look on her face.  Shoulder length hair that's not overly styled - that good ole West Texas wind blown look.  Perhaps blonde or brunette.  Sharp eyes that have been further sharpened by the harsh West Texas sun.  She has nice well defined jowels that taper nicely to a well defined mouth.  She is certainly not over/under weight - probably just about perfect for the height / weight ratio.  It's hard to get a feel for her height - but I'd say looking at the size of the forehead in relation to the flattened well porportned nose that she is between 5'9" and 5'10".  She does appear to have attached earlobes.    I wonder where the picture was taken at?   Definately looks like West Texas, but not necessarily the Big Bend area - I'm thinking a tad bit further north where there are flater mesas.   Put a windmill on top of it and I'd think Irann.  Looks to be a white labador type dog on her right - left when looking at the picture.  Must be fall or winter as she is wearing what one would presume to be black or very dark with long sleeves - certainly not cold, but cool - perhaps in the 50's?  The picture wants me to believe that it is late afternoon, before dusk - say between 3-4 pm, closer to 4pm, as it gets dark early in the Fall/Winter.  Of course, it could be an overcast day, but I'm leaning to late afternoon.   The glasses have me a bit puzzled.  I don't really recall those ever being in vogue, because they are such large lenses with dark frames.  I'm not too good on remembering details and fads.

Now, with the name "Mimi Webb-Miller", one has to wonder if she was married at some point in time.  There is no alluding in the book to her marital status or anything, that I can recall, but one would think with a name of Webb-Miller it is a combo of maiden and taken name.  

She used to drive a red taxi around  the area, I wonder if she still does?  I keep coming back to the glasses.  They are very unusual in some respects - almost an enlarged hornrimmed appearance.  Certainly not your typical reading glasses, she probably needs them to drive and might have problems seeing at night - hence the large lenses which would gather more light?  The glasses give her an appearance of the confidence and being in charge, especially of her own destiny.  Primarily because she is wearing the glasses on her head.  

But, in some respects that concerned, not a scowl, but almost a feeling of inquisitive concern on her face would lead me to believe that she was in Santa Elana looking across the river at where Pablo died, but the picture was  taken five years before his death, so maybe she was "forseeing" something.  I'm not exactly sure of when she became associated with Pablo.  According to the book, she was in Lajitas staying with friends when the shoot out when down and went to try and claim the boby of Pablo with his sister at PJ.  Her ranch house on the Mexican side had been shot up and she was afraid to stay there.

Now, if you look at her hand position you will notice that that's not a very natural or comfortable position, especially with how the thumb is positioned and the way that the wrist is bent. (try it and see).  It's really hard to tell what her facial skin condition is like - but I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that although not rough like sandpaper, it too has suffered the elements of the Bend region.  I believe her family is from Wichita, Texas I imagine - which in itself is kinda harsh country.

Am I missing anything?

Thank You Viper.  I've stayed well up past my bed time looking at this!

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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2006, 03:16:45 AM »
that is the most i have ever seen anyone analyze a single portrait :shock:

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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2006, 08:00:20 AM »
Quote from: "01ACRViper"
that is the most i have ever seen anyone analyze a single portrait :shock:


Oh, he's GOOD.......you have no idea! :lol:  :lol:

Shane A....just his first and middle name......his last name is MANNIX! :wink:

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2006, 08:07:57 AM »
Looks like with that hand gesture, she is saying "YOU TALKIN TO ME"  :?:  :!:
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2006, 08:18:31 AM »
Great read of the photo. I'm definitely going to have to get the book. read this post yesterday without realizing that you were talking about the very events I raised in my Santa Elena post. I took out Jim Glendinnings Mexico's Unofficial Border Crossings last night and re-read the little it has to say about Pablo and the events at Santa Elena in 1987. All this is very fascinating. Has anyone read No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy?  It's a drug-deal gone bad kind of story set in Sanderson in the 1980's.  I think it is purely fictional, but if anyone knows otherwise, it would be interesting to hear.
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SHANEA

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2006, 08:54:58 AM »
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that is the most i have ever seen anyone analyze a single portrait :shock:


I just got on a roll and couldn't stop.  Glad David removed the fifteen minute timer on posts.  I started to delete it or not post it after I finished it, but what the heck.  Pictures are the windows to the soul - and the heart and mind.  Pictures tell a story - an instant in the infinite time span that is captured forever.  I should be a fiction writer!

What about the age?  Do you tend to agree/disagree with it?  Older/Younger?

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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2006, 09:13:19 AM »
I need her phone number and schedule a meeting there , just to check and confirm everything Shane mentioned.....WOW did you use to be a profiler?. :shock:
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2006, 09:23:17 AM »
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MANNIX! :wink:


Loved that show.  Theme music was great, opening scenes were good with him running down the bridge, etc.  Wish TV land would run a Mannix marrathon weekend, along with Hawaii Five-O and the FBI with Efrem Zibelist Jr.  TRIVIA QUESTION:  What was Mannix's lovely secretarys name?

 


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