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Quote from: Flash on June 23, 2018, 09:30:52 PMThe game was probably played similar to horseshoes or washers or some of these bean bag toss games. I am guessing, based on the evidence, that they used flat stones marked with paint.I am curious as to how you arrived at the conclusion the stakes and rocks are marking some kind of playing field?There is nothing to suggest that. The small rocks referred to as tossing stones cannot be affirmatively associated with the stakes and larger rocks.Your photos show no indication of any concentrated impacts which would occur from long-term or repeated occupation of an area as a campsite or work area, which further reduces the likelihood these stakes have some recreational implication. That a single vehicle pass left visible marks in the desert pavement shows the ease with which use impacts occur in the desert. Consequently, it is much more likely the rebar was used to mark something of interest. The painted rocks would have been placed there, not as game backstops, but as an aid to relocating the rebar at a later time. A short, thin, rusty rod in the desert is very hard to see; painted rocks not only would be colorful, but they also are much larger than other materials in the area so they also would aid in finding the stations. The utility of using such rocks is seen in your photo of the four rocks; they are hard to miss in a expanse of desert pavement. You would see them long before resolving the rebar.Surveyors today use similar techniques of piling rocks at points, but more typically use a lath stake with flagging attached to attract your attention. Of course wooden stakes fall over and flagging weathers, so rock piles really are more useful even if they cannot be seen from as far a distance as flagging.Now, why is it there? Who knows? You may be correct in your assumptions, but I find it unlikely that anyone is going to carry rebar into the desert (and a long way from anywhere) to build some kind of game field. Of course, there is no way to determine the age of this stuff, but keep in mind that in the pre-park days, people worked hard out there. Social activities were concentrated at/near residential areas, not way out in the desert. Perhaps Tom Alex has some information on this site, as it may be some NPS thing that has been long forgotten.My best guess (because that's all we can do) is that it is marking a study plot of some kind or an archeological feature, neither of which is immediately apparent.
The game was probably played similar to horseshoes or washers or some of these bean bag toss games. I am guessing, based on the evidence, that they used flat stones marked with paint.
I have a technical question for anyone. I hesitated to post a trip report from my Memorial Day weekend trip (Casa Grande? #peakbagged) because I tend to be a picture storyteller than a textual one. (Blame Facebook.) I was worried that my pictures would be too large and take up too much room in the report, but looks like that's actually an OK thing, right? (Should I wait for the new platform to kick in, though. Will that make the picture storytelling a less cumbersome?)
"Pretty cool find though." Definitely - what were they up to ? and who ?
Quote from: alan in shreveport on June 26, 2018, 06:42:13 AM"Pretty cool find though." Definitely - what were they up to ? and who ?Hopefully BIBEARCH will be along soon to provide clarification, but in the meantime:https://www.google.com/search?q=wildlife+monitoring+transect
Thx to Richard for waking me up.That series of metal stakes and painted Cairns is an old wildlife monitoring transect. Sometimes, you'll find an ID tag on them but given the age of those old transects (30+ years) the wire that secured the tags rusted in two long ago. For intrepid benders, Barton Warnock installed wildlife exclusion fence plots to monitor vegetation recovery from the effects of overgrazing. I've run into several on my wanderings . Chiao!
Are these the shorts DSR fished out of the water?
Quote from: Flash on June 12, 2018, 11:10:27 PMAre these the shorts DSR fished out of the water?I can faintly see the same pattern so I'd say it's a match.Was the spring flowing in the creek just above the black rock?Estufa Canyon seems nice, I hope to walk it some day. Thanks for the report.
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